movies

[Jocephus]

i was a jazz drummer in school, can i comment on whiplash?

[lukethedrifter]

Leni Riefenstahl made the best movies.


/just sayin'

[ghostrunner]

Is it ok to praise a movie if it does get all the truths and nuances of the real thing?

Movies have different aims so I don't see why not.

Then why is it not ok to criticize a movie if it gets the reality of the thing wrong?

If this is important to someone, they're watching movies for different reasons than me. Which is fine. But saying it's like "Plan 9 from Outer Space" is pretty ridiculous.

They're maybe not watching for different reasons, but are receptive in different ways. Those folks are maybe a bit more cynical, as viewers, than you or others.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter that much. I think that something that's hyper-real like "The Wire" should get a bit of extra credit over something that's enjoyable but not at all real like "Brooklyn 99."

I can't personally go along with that, though I understand the thought. I wouldn't expect or want every movie or show to take a hyper-realistic approach and in fact I generally prefer that they don't. Brooklyn 99 would be a lesser show for trying to emulate The Wire. I'm not saying that's the suggestion, just that I don't think you can give or take away credit based on that. Hannibal only works the way it does by eschewing logic and common sense. It's built around stuff that could never really happen and I'm certain the FBI works nothing like it does on the show. It's interested in truths that can't be captured by details and accuracy. I imagine the same is true with Whiplash. Music school is a framework, not the subject. Again, I'm assuming.

[lukethedrifter]

I don't think the criticism was that the movie lacked verisimilitude so much as it implied that beating/berating/belittling someone was a way to get the most out of someone's artistic talents.

[MrCrowesGarden]

I don't think the criticism was that the movie lacked verisimilitude so much as it implied that beating/berating/belittling someone was a way to get the most out of someone's artistic talents.

It doesn't imply that this is a good thing.

[JackofDiamonds]

I don't think the criticism was that the movie lacked verisimilitude so much as it implied that beating/berating/belittling someone was a way to get the most out of someone's artistic talents.

They explicitly show how his abusive teaching style caused at least one student to commit suicide and countless others to quit music all-together. It's not supposed to be a positive relationship.

[MrSaigon]

It's only sort of about jazz. There's probably a version of that movie where getting a few things wrong about the setting would bother me too. Probably not that much, though.

[Vidor]

I just watched a cartoon in which an evil mouse, with malice aforethought, sets out to starve Sylvester the Cat to death.

It's called "Canned Feud".

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1z23z ... d-feud_fun

[Vidor]

WHO SAYS DAVID SPADE IS WASHED UP?

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/04/13/wa ... -exclusive

[Jocephus]

is it a movie if it only streams on crackle?