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Famous Mortimer wrote:Neither here nor there, really. The vintage of his anti-semitic, woman-beating and fat-shaming tweets are less important to me than the fact he wrote them, thought them worthy of giving to the world and hit "send".

I don't think he should lose his job over this, but if you're putting something in public, don't be surprised when people pay attention to it, or have an opinion about it. By the line of reasoning you appear to be advancing, there'd be a lot of dead air in the average episode of "The Daily Show" when they go back years and years to find examples of politicians contradicting themselves, and so on.

I think so many of these recent problems are a combination of two things - that the internet isn't the anonymous playground it once was; and that "famous" people are still surprised that normal folks like you or I can take them down a peg or two. Especially with Patton Oswalt's awful argument, there's a whiff of "you normal comedy fans should KNOW. YOUR. PLACE." about it all.

A lot of what I've read about this has been disappointment, more than anger. The Daily Show means a lot to some people, and they're the ones who see that their beloved Jon Stewart is being replaced by a guy who feels confident enough in rotten opinions like this that he's fine with airing them in public.
I disapprove of the whole mindset that takes three-year old jokes as an opportunity for public shaming. And the comparison between politicians who make laws that influence people's lives and comedians who tell jokes is a poor one. And while I don't find the aforementioned three-year-old jokes to be funny, humor usually has an element of meanness behind it somewhere, which was Oswalt's point. If no one can ever tell any jokes that might make someone somewhere mad, then we have a problem.

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If no one can ever tell any jokes that might make someone somewhere mad, then we have a problem.
There is no uproar about all jokes, just these jokes. Mainly because they were unfunny so they came off as hateful. The mistake is thinking that the reaction describes the culture instead of the jokes.

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There's a lot of talent in/behind lmoe. It's definitely pretty lame, but I personally hope they get a season 2 to try and figure it out add talent, rework, tweak etc.

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LMOE needs....zombies!

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I don't have a big problem with LMOE yet. I kind of like that everyone was annoyed by Kristen Schaal at first and now it's everyone else annoyed by him. I like the idea that we were initially tricked into liking the guy before seeing how he treats other people. I assume the show is going to change as more people come on. Does seem like they could have mined more out if his solo exploits, but they obviously weren't interested in that version of the show. They're definitely not concerned about logic or realism, which is fine.

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Famous Mortimer wrote:
Vidor wrote: How do you feel about the folks who go hunting through years of twitter in hopes of finding something embarrassing? They had to search through three years of this guy's tweets.
Neither here nor there, really. The vintage of his anti-semitic, woman-beating and fat-shaming tweets are less important to me than the fact he wrote them, thought them worthy of giving to the world and hit "send".

I don't think he should lose his job over this, but if you're putting something in public, don't be surprised when people pay attention to it, or have an opinion about it. By the line of reasoning you appear to be advancing, there'd be a lot of dead air in the average episode of "The Daily Show" when they go back years and years to find examples of politicians contradicting themselves, and so on.

I think so many of these recent problems are a combination of two things - that the internet isn't the anonymous playground it once was; and that "famous" people are still surprised that normal folks like you or I can take them down a peg or two. Especially with Patton Oswalt's awful argument, there's a whiff of "you normal comedy fans should KNOW. YOUR. PLACE." about it all.

A lot of what I've read about this has been disappointment, more than anger. The Daily Show means a lot to some people, and they're the ones who see that their beloved Jon Stewart is being replaced by a guy who feels confident enough in rotten opinions like this that he's fine with airing them in public.
But they're jokes. It's just hard for me to envision long time fan of TDS outraged to the point of giving up on the show over this. And I've seen that. Surely they would have felt the sting of offense in humor by now.

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I don't check in on this thread very much, as I don't watch a lot of episodic TV. Just finished Broadchurch on Netflix after a friend recommended it. I think I would have enjoyed it a lot more with much less over-the-top music and about 10 minutes of every episode spent showing extended sad, longing, angry, or suspicious stares from each character.

In general, I love a good mystery, where by the end you are thinking "Oh man! I totally missed that! Damnnn!"

Without spoiling anything, I was disappointed. Any recommendations on something similar? I have netflix and amazon prime, but no access to True Detective or other premium stuff.

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True Detective season 1 has been available on DVD and streaming for some time.

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ghostrunner wrote:I don't have a big problem with LMOE yet. I kind of like that everyone was annoyed by Kristen Schaal at first and now it's everyone else annoyed by him. I like the idea that we were initially tricked into liking the guy before seeing how he treats other people. I assume the show is going to change as more people come on. Does seem like they could have mined more out if his solo exploits, but they obviously weren't interested in that version of the show. They're definitely not concerned about logic or realism, which is fine.
They're not concerned about anything other than replaying the same joke. I equate it to my 2 year old who takes a [expletive] in his diaper, then sticks his hand down in it and pulls out a handful of [expletive]. Is it kind of funny the first time? Yeah, for about 2 seconds. It gets real annoying, real quick when he starts crying and running around because he has a handful of [expletive] and it stinks and he starts running away from me whilst rubbing his [expletive] hand all over his shirt and the walls and the dogs and all that. That's LMOE right now. A [expletive] hand.

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Maclowery wrote:I don't check in on this thread very much, as I don't watch a lot of episodic TV. Just finished Broadchurch on Netflix after a friend recommended it. I think I would have enjoyed it a lot more with much less over-the-top music and about 10 minutes of every episode spent showing extended sad, longing, angry, or suspicious stares from each character.

In general, I love a good mystery, where by the end you are thinking "Oh man! I totally missed that! Damnnn!"

Without spoiling anything, I was disappointed. Any recommendations on something similar? I have netflix and amazon prime, but no access to True Detective or other premium stuff.
Have you watched BBC's Sherlock? That's a pretty great mystery show.

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