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Fat Strat wrote:I would have to watch the second match again, but I didn't see the "Bradley was terrible" narrative.

Bradley was terrible if you look at two things:
1) The cross (by Johnson, I think) that Bradley shot right into the legs of the defender. Had the goalie beat, just had to put it on goal. Bradley struck it well with pace (soccer lingo!) but he should have put it into the corner.
* Bad play? I suppose. More unlucky than bad. Bradley scores on that same ball 99 times out of 100. The last thing you want to do in that situation is try to get fancy and end up missing.

2) The midfield giveaway that led to the equalizer. (No analysis needed.)

Obviously, those two plays made the difference in the game's outcome. The rest of the game, Bradley did an excellent job of setting up the attack and controlling the center of the midfield. He was much better than the first match. He had multiple quality passes that could have easily ended in goals. I thought overall he had a very good game with two costly and unusual mistakes.

I guess you could equate his performance to a guy who went 2-3 in a baseball game, but his one out was a K with runners in scoring position, and he had a costly error in the field that led to a run.
Why is the midfield giveaway that led to the goal a bad play but none of the other giveaways are? You obviously know more about soccer and what they're trying to do, but Bradley lost the ball 4-5 times in the 2nd half in the same way as that last one, no? And that's not counting any bad passes.

The missed opportunity wasn't really horrible. The placement could have been better but he at least got a good foot on a bouncing ball and put it on goal. More unlucky than bad.

I'm with go birds....just distraught. Their probability of advancing to the next round went from like 99.99% to maybe at best 60%, probably more like 50% in less than a minute of play. That's got to be some kind of record in soccer.

Are there win expectancy charts for these games like bbref has for baseball games?

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The most frustrating part is that the two goals portugal scored were direct results of stupid mistakes by our players--the inability to clear the ball on both accounts. Yea bradley _probably_ shouldnt be blasting a ball upfield at midfield, but i dunno, that was just an awful play.

The US was clearly the better team on the field yesterday, imo and they should have advanced yesterday.

I'm not gonna say Bradley is godawful, but man he hasn't looked all that great thus far--that's not to say he should be benched however--but he needs to step his game up.

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jim wrote:This morning I heard a guy talking to a British guy and he asked him "How much time was left when they scored?". His answer - "Hard to say".

What the hell kind of bull [expletive] is that?

Soccer seems very receptive to using technology - instant replay for goals and stuff like that. So why on earth do they not put the freaking time left in a game on a clock? Does everyone just trust that mofo with the watch? I don't.

Exactly. Why let the human element get in the way of getting it right?

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Fat Strat wrote:I would have to watch the second match again, but I didn't see the "Bradley was terrible" narrative.

So I'm not taking crazy pills and Bradley wasn't that bad last night.

Was he Michael Bradley the robot that always makes the right decision and never puts his team in danger like he's generally been for the last three years? No. He has been significantly worse than that.

Is he the reason we didn't win big last night? Absolutely not. That falls mostly at the feet of Geoff Cameron, who's name has yet to be mentioned in the post-game gnashing of teeth from the people who check in on the sport every 4 years.

I'm not being critical of you bandwagon fans. I appreciate you getting involved, I really do. I also know that Michael Bradley hasn't shown you why we, the people who have watched every US game he's played in and a ton of his games for Roma and Toronto, have so much faith in him.

That said, you need to just get a grip and pick a new scapegoat if you have to have one. If you want to focus on the tying goal, you should probably notice that he never had possession, didn't have the best position to gain possession and he also gave the ball away 70 yards away from goal. That's soccer. It's a game where possession is lost all the time. If Geoff Cameron is unaware enough to let his man get between him and the goal on a fast break and Ronaldo can make that pass, we're [expletive] every time. Totally unacceptable play from Cameron on both goals last night.
He's our best right-sided center back, so he's not going anywhere, but [expletive] like that is why we won't win a World Cup.

We're still in good shape to go through and that was beyond most people's realistic expectations, so let's keep some perspective.


Also, Ian Darke was [expletive] out of his mind when he criticized Bradley late in the Ghana game for not taking the ball to the corner flag. Anyone who harps on that has lost all perspective. That was a total nothing and many novice fans took that and ran with it like Mike committed some cardinal sin of soccer. It was a non-event.

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Bradley ran 7.6 miles up to that point in the game (more than any other player), consistently serving as a rescue valve on both sides of the field. He had a bad first touch on a tough ball to handle, then was just outmuscled on the follow-up. There were plenty of bodies back to break up that cross, but it was Cameronthat let himself get beat to the spot and Cameron that [expletive] up for the first goal.

I don't see how anyone could watch that game and blame Bradley. He wasn't the transcendent star we expected, but he wasn't pedestrian either.

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YEAH JACK
Bringing it with the ANALYTICS.

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Is there a place to watch the games?

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trill wrote:YEAH JACK

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AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:Is there a place to watch the games?
Online? WatchESPN/ESPN3.com but you have to a login with an approved ISP.

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