Neighborhood crime

[Jocephus]

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game, though, right?

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

Interesting information AW, but I don't think that chart is necessarily indicative of people breaking into homes to kill people.

Something like 60% of gun owners say that they own guns for protection. Based on the homicide numbers in that chart, the gun owners aren't doing a very good job of protecting people.

I don't think you can draw that conclusion. Without dissecting the information, about the only conclusion you can draw is you're about 3-5x more likely to die from an accident than be murdered and you're about as likely to commit suicide as be murdered....at least until you are past middle aged.

[StL Dan]

haha.

sorry i dont mean to ruffle any feathers. it was a joke. and putting a winking face sometimes seems less genuine.

And, a funny one, at that!

[lukethedrifter]

Interesting information AW, but I don't think that chart is necessarily indicative of people breaking into homes to kill people.

Something like 60% of gun owners say that they own guns for protection. Based on the homicide numbers in that chart, the gun owners aren't doing a very good job of protecting people.

I don't think you can draw that conclusion. Without dissecting the information, about the only conclusion you can draw is you're about 3-5x more likely to die from an accident than be murdered and you're about as likely to commit suicide as be murdered....at least until you are past middle aged.

and the murders need to be broken down by whether it was committed by a member of the household against other members of the household- cuz it ain't protecting anyone then- and need to know how many of the accidental deaths are gun related before we can determine if guns are increasing or decreasing safety.

[Jocephus]

haha.

sorry i dont mean to ruffle any feathers. it was a joke. and putting a winking face sometimes seems less genuine.

And, a funny one, at that!

bah...its all garbage...at least i provide a floor for other posters

[Socnorb11]

Interesting information AW, but I don't think that chart is necessarily indicative of people breaking into homes to kill people.

Something like 60% of gun owners say that they own guns for protection. Based on the homicide numbers in that chart, the gun owners aren't doing a very good job of protecting people.

I don't think you can draw that conclusion. Without dissecting the information, about the only conclusion you can draw is you're about 3-5x more likely to die from an accident than be murdered and you're about as likely to commit suicide as be murdered....at least until you are past middle aged.

That wasn't a serious conclusion. I was just being sarcastic.

[IMADreamer]

Here is a ranking of what kills people. Homicide is pretty high up there for middle aged people.

http://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/pdf/1 ... 2010-a.pdf

This is just for 2010, but it's pretty consistently a top 5 cause of death for every age group from 10 years old to 44. Of course, so is suicide. And, overall, it's not a top 10 killer.

Of all those homocides I wonder how many were random though? It seems like most of the time when someone gets shot it's because of some sort of domestic dispute or maybe a bar fight. I feel like if you don't stick your nose where it belongs most of the time you can have very little risk of getting shot.

[JCShutout]

I keep cheetos in my safe and my stacks of cash in cheetos bags in the pantry. I also have a type II TOS phaser in the drawer in my nightstand, set to "moderate hemorrhoidial discomfort", and an empty container of preparation H in the bathroom, so when they retreat to treat their pain, their emotional pain is significant. Also, every doorway and window has a laser tripped 1080 carbon steel guillotine hidden in the lintel. If that doesn't work, all of my neighbors are dalaks.

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

I keep cheetos in my safe and my stacks of cash in cheetos bags in the pantry. I also have a type II TOS phaser in the drawer in my nightstand, set to "moderate hemorrhoidial discomfort", and an empty container of preparation H in the bathroom, so when they retreat to treat their pain, their emotional pain is significant. Also, every doorway and window has a laser tripped 1080 carbon steel guillotine hidden in the lintel. If that doesn't work, all of my neighbors are dalaks.

[wart57]

You will be exterminated for spelling our name wrong, it is spelled Dalek.