TV Thread - beware, [expletive] can get spoilery

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Season 2 of "The Americans" starts next week.

"SHOW THEM YOUR FACE!"

[heyzeus]

Just finished House of Cards. Maybe this was explained somewhere in the convoluted mess of a show, but this plot hole is enfuriating to me:

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Why the [expletive] would the special prosecutor (and/or Congress in impeachment) not also bring charges against Frank, the guy who would become President once the President is impeached? She had, at the least, evidence that Frank met with the casino people, and evidence that Underwood's chief of staff was at the Casino plus went to Beijing. All of the evidence that brought down the president was based on [expletive] that Frank did; so why on god's green earth would she just target the President then just let Frank off the hook to BECOME president?

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Just finished House of Cards. Maybe this was explained somewhere in the convoluted mess of a show, but this plot hole is enfuriating to me:

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Why the [expletive] would the special prosecutor (and/or Congress in impeachment) not also bring charges against Frank, the guy who would become President once the President is impeached? She had, at the least, evidence that Frank met with the casino people, and evidence that Underwood's chief of staff was at the Casino plus went to Beijing. All of the evidence that brought down the president was based on [expletive] that Frank did; so why on god's green earth would she just target the President then just let Frank off the hook to BECOME president?

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I think it was all of the President's flight logs to St. Louis to meet with the fictional Monsanto guy. He was clearly the one with career-long ties to him. Remember when Frank and Stamper we're discussing the President handing over his schedule to the investigation and Stamper was all like, "Everything? Even his visits to his friend in Missouri?" and Frank was all like, "Everything".

[ghostrunner]

Season 2 of "The Americans" starts next week.

"SHOW THEM YOUR FACE!"

TV is such a different thing now. I went through the fall with nothing I cared to watch after the BB finale. The next few weeks I'll have 4 of my favorite shows running.

[heyzeus]

Just finished House of Cards. Maybe this was explained somewhere in the convoluted mess of a show, but this plot hole is enfuriating to me:

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Why the [expletive] would the special prosecutor (and/or Congress in impeachment) not also bring charges against Frank, the guy who would become President once the President is impeached? She had, at the least, evidence that Frank met with the casino people, and evidence that Underwood's chief of staff was at the Casino plus went to Beijing. All of the evidence that brought down the president was based on [expletive] that Frank did; so why on god's green earth would she just target the President then just let Frank off the hook to BECOME president?

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I think it was all of the President's flight logs to St. Louis to meet with the fictional Monsanto guy. He was clearly the one with career-long ties to him. Remember when Frank and Stamper we're discussing the President handing over his schedule to the investigation and Stamper was all like, "Everything? Even his visits to his friend in Missouri?" and Frank was all like, "Everything".

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I like that Tusk is presented as a shadowy St. Louis billionaire. Apparently he is Ameren, because at one point they mention that he owns the nuclear plant in Fulton.

So yeah, I agree with you that they present the reason why the prosecutor has ammo to go after the president. I just think it's a huge logic fail that she wouldn't also go after the VP who stands to become president, when there's even stronger evidence that the VP was making backchannel deals regarding that same PAC spending.

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Just finished House of Cards. Maybe this was explained somewhere in the convoluted mess of a show, but this plot hole is enfuriating to me:

[SHOW]

Why the [expletive] would the special prosecutor (and/or Congress in impeachment) not also bring charges against Frank, the guy who would become President once the President is impeached? She had, at the least, evidence that Frank met with the casino people, and evidence that Underwood's chief of staff was at the Casino plus went to Beijing. All of the evidence that brought down the president was based on [expletive] that Frank did; so why on god's green earth would she just target the President then just let Frank off the hook to BECOME president?

[SHOW]

I think it was all of the President's flight logs to St. Louis to meet with the fictional Monsanto guy. He was clearly the one with career-long ties to him. Remember when Frank and Stamper we're discussing the President handing over his schedule to the investigation and Stamper was all like, "Everything? Even his visits to his friend in Missouri?" and Frank was all like, "Everything".

[SHOW]

I like that Tusk is presented as a shadowy St. Louis billionaire. Apparently he is Ameren, because at one point they mention that he owns the nuclear plant in Fulton.

So yeah, I agree with you that they present the reason why the prosecutor has ammo to go after the president. I just think it's a huge logic fail that she wouldn't also go after the VP who stands to become president, when there's even stronger evidence that the VP was making backchannel deals regarding that same PAC spending.

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Well I thought it was the counseling and medication and the potential for compromised decision making during the energy subsidies, the chinese negotiations and the Japan/Chinese conflict that led to his resignation more than the foreign super pac.

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True D posters
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[stlouie_lipp]

^^ cool link. I like the antlers poster - might buy one.

I think people who dismiss Cohle's monologues as dorm room philosophy are selling the writing of this series short. Yes, on the surface and for the first couple episodes it seemed that way. But as some of the themes have developed over the last three episodes (the yellow king, black stars rising, Carcosa, dreams, timelines, etc.) there is much more meaning behind what he says - as it relates to the story anyway. Just re-watch the scene when Reggie Ledoux is cuffed and is talking to Cohle and listen to what he says. It relates back to the "monster at the end of it" speech, his "time is not liner" monologue, the many entries into Dora Lange’s notebook, and much more. I guess what I'm saying is there is (I think) a purpose behind the writing of Cohle's "amateur philosophy" speeches that tie the characters together and will be more fully developed over the last 3 episodes.

[33anda3rd]

Just started watching True Detective last night, so I've got a little bit to catch up on. Initial thoughts: It's a standard, twisty turvy detective story (with GREAT acting!) hiding a religious/philosophical treatise. I would like either of those, but not sure how I like them together.

Nah bruh. It gets WEIRD. Like, Lovecraftian weird.

And it's sooooooo quietly intense. Like, outside Woody having a freakout when he has a couple personal issues blow up on him, the show is just so subdued and moody and it lets the ideas carry the weirdness instead of making them these big Intense Yelling Actorly Emmy Clip things. It reminds me a lot of Twin Peaks in that way. The scene in the projects with Ginger and the biker dudes was shot in a way that I don't think I've ever seen a scene like it shot. I felt like I was in the room, not like I was watching a shoot-out/escape scene from a safe distance provided by choreographed gunplay and car chases. It felt real--not that I've ever had to shoot/punch/run my way out of the projects.

I'm really impressed that every ep is written and directed by the same two people. I think it gives it a sense of vision and style that's continuous throughout the show that you don't get in some shows where there's a handful of writers and directors who take on individual episodes themselves and bring a different signature to each episode.

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I haven't heard much talk about it, but that shot through the windshield of the prostitutes at the bunny ranch was eerie. It's just when they drive up and it's blurry, but everything looks blurry and floaty like you're looking in an aquarium. I tried to find a screenshot but couldn't. Maybe I'm making more of it than was really there, but that's how it hit me.

I'm going to be ticked if it turns out Cohle or Hart is involved with the murders, both of which have been speculated.

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Cohle is pretty much ruled out, but I guess Hart is technically possible. They'd have some work to do to make that compelling.