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I, inarguably, improved upon the ending. Sorry about your nose there, Vincent.
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I still don't get why Walt would out Jesse under the car in the desert and then ultimately take a bullet for him and save his life. Change of heart or part of his master plan?

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planet p wrote:
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I still don't get why Walt would out Jesse under the car in the desert and then ultimately take a bullet for him and save his life. Change of heart or part of his master plan?
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Did he take a bullet for him on purpose or just part of the chaos. I don't think Walt was under any illusion of walking away. Tackling Jesse got them away from certain death, but was a good way for him to create a distraction as well so he could get the keys out.

Regardless, Walt changed - big time - over the last couple episodes. Going from Heisenberg to something worse to broken and eventually back to who he eventually was, a mixture of everyone. Brilliant criminal, ruthless planner, family man. His empire died with Hank, really. But ,in the end and unlike after Hank had just been killed - a result of Jesse running to the cops in Walts' mind, Walt still cared about Jesse. Walt acknowledged who he was, what he had done wrong, who he had become and what he had to do to make things as right as possible. And he did that, then he died.

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planet p wrote:
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I still don't get why Walt would out Jesse under the car in the desert and then ultimately take a bullet for him and save his life. Change of heart or part of his master plan?
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I assumed a combination of 6 months of thinking time, plus seeing the shape Jesse was in.

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AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:
planet p wrote:
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I still don't get why Walt would out Jesse under the car in the desert and then ultimately take a bullet for him and save his life. Change of heart or part of his master plan?
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Did he take a bullet for him on purpose or just part of the chaos. I don't think Walt was under any illusion of walking away. Tackling Jesse got them away from certain death, but was a good way for him to create a distraction as well so he could get the keys out.

Regardless, Walt changed - big time - over the last couple episodes. Going from Heisenberg to something worse to broken and eventually back to who he eventually was, a mixture of everyone. Brilliant criminal, ruthless planner, family man. His empire died with Hank, really. But ,in the end and unlike after Hank had just been killed - a result of Jesse running to the cops in Walts' mind, Walt still cared about Jesse. Walt acknowledged who he was, what he had done wrong, who he had become and what he had to do to make things as right as possible. And he did that, then he died.
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Yeah, Walt changed drastically there at the end. There were months and months in between the time that he was in the desert, and then when they had the shootout at the Nazi compound. And in those months, Walt was stripped of all of his power, came to terms with all the horrible [expletive] he'd done, and was really close to dying of cancer anyway. That moment he had with Skyler was HUGE- where she assumed he was going to say "I did it for the family", but instead he fessed up to doing it for himself. There was no point at any other time in the series that he would've said that.

And I absolutely believe that his intention was to save Jesse's life. I doubt he knew he'd take a bullet for him, though.

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This isn't really spoilery, I don't think. Anyone else catch Gretchen holding her stomach as she got out of the car? I picked up on it and then my wife asks, "Is she pregnant?" They never confirmed it, but it looked pretty suspicious. Like they were going to have her say she was having a baby or something.

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Probably about to poop her brains out from Thai food. Or pizza. I don't really remember which one they'd just had.

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that cant be it because i feel like she would have [expletive] on the floor when she saw walt

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