Rave: St. Louis

[Freed Roger]

City of St. Louis with it's stop lights every 50 feet take some of the enjoyment out of visiting. I know, it's to be expected in urban area - but it's overkill. Now they have the stop light cameras to welcome people.

[Molly]

City of St. Louis with it's stop lights every 50 feet take some of the enjoyment out of visiting. I know, it's to be expected in urban area - but it's overkill. Now they have the stop light cameras to welcome people.

A heads up for all you south siders - one was recently installed at the intersection of Grand & Delor.

[Freed Roger]

City of St. Louis with it's stop lights every 50 feet take some of the enjoyment out of visiting. I know, it's to be expected in urban area - but it's overkill. Now they have the stop light cameras to welcome people.

A heads up for all you south siders - one was recently installed at the intersection of Grand & Delor.

We've already been nailed by these things twice. Then this weekend, we are down in south Hampton and then Tower Grove area - I believe we may have been hit again (at Chippewa and Hampton, Mrs. Freed was about to do a rolling right on red, and I alerted her to stop, but it was over the line. I do think you can make right on red there, but you have to stop first - it's very hard to pick out the signage while you're driving)

Seems like when we are out and about trying enjoy and patronize the City neighborhoods - get some good stuff from the local shops (G&W Sausage), have lunch, go to a bar etc - it becomes a hassle.

And I'm not [expletive] about the times getting our car stolen or friends being robbed at gunpoint here. I'm referring to just normal Saturday morning trying to navigate. I realize a city neighborhood is going to be more congested, have more stops, one way streets, and I have a lack of familiarity. It doesn't help that StL is not aligned on the EWNS grid, which I'm personally programmed for. BUT, adding on these stupid right turn violations to the other clusters is over the top. (I'm ok with the cameras catching cars barreling thru intersections on red though).

No, I'm not going to stay in the suburbs all the time, but I just find this crap very unwelcoming-especially to people not from the immediate area.

[TimeForGuinness]

City of St. Louis with it's stop lights every 50 feet take some of the enjoyment out of visiting. I know, it's to be expected in urban area - but it's overkill. Now they have the stop light cameras to welcome people.

Because of stop light cameras, I'm more likely to run the lights that don't have them...

[TheoSqua]

City of St. Louis with it's stop lights every 50 feet take some of the enjoyment out of visiting. I know, it's to be expected in urban area - but it's overkill. Now they have the stop light cameras to welcome people.

A heads up for all you south siders - one was recently installed at the intersection of Grand & Delor.

Ah balls, that's right by the Dominos I order pizza from.

[Molly]

City of St. Louis with it's stop lights every 50 feet take some of the enjoyment out of visiting. I know, it's to be expected in urban area - but it's overkill. Now they have the stop light cameras to welcome people.

A heads up for all you south siders - one was recently installed at the intersection of Grand & Delor.

Ah balls, that's right by the Dominos I order pizza from.

That Dominos was a bakery once upon a time; an older building that was torn down & replaced with the current building housing Dominos & the laundromat; the discount cigarette store across from Dominos was a corner butcher shop/grocery store. I'm from that area.

[planet planet]

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