If you want to sit in a giant, hot sand box next to a bunch of almost-naked fat people staring at a big body of water that smells like a fish outhouse, be my guest.
jim wrote:Prettier?
Within a 3.5 hour range in every direction of Phoenix:
Grand Canyon
If you don't mind the temps getting to around 30 at their lowest but still getting 330+ days of sunshine, there are plenty of great places to consider retiring to like Sedona or Prescott. Only gets to about 90 in the summer at it's worse.
A couple things about AZ amaze me. The first is that part of it get snow and a decent amount of it if I remember correctly Doesn't flagstaff get a pretty decent amount? And, the temps are crazy....just looking at today it's a high of 60 and a low of 24. That's a huge swing!
Also, Arizona is a 'tall' ass state. A lot of it is > 3,000 feet above sea level (yes, this is actually an important part of where I live).
Flagstaff is a skiing destination, so yeah they get snow. I really really like to fish, and that's the part of Arizona that is missing. I know they have some man made lakes, but I prefer natural bodies of water. Streams and rivers, glaciated lakes, oceans. Not some damned up reservoir that gets backed up with boat traffic like the 101 in rush hour. That's a big deal for me. I know it's 4 hours to some good fishing (it's 4 hours to everything from Phoenix - one of the advantages), but it's not right there for me if I feel like going out for an hour in the evening.
AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote: The first is that part of it get snow and a decent amount of it if I remember correctly Doesn't flagstaff get a pretty decent amount?
Pretty much everything over 5000 feet gets some amount of snow every year. That encompasses a huge area of the state, but very little population. The bulk of the population lives in Tucson and Phoenix which are both below the cold elevation. Tucson is around 2000 ft, Phoenix around 1200, so Tucson is generally a little cooler and gets a tad more precipitation. Flagstaff is a 7,000 ft and is on the side of the San Francisco range. They get a lot of snow up there due to the cold from the altitude and the meteorological influence of the range. It's alpine and essentially similar to Colorado in climate.
rad it definitely is not. That pic I posted a few posts up was about an hour or so outside of Phoenix - about a 30 minute drive past the last suburbs before we turned off the main road.
There's just no replacing the ocean, as great as the mountainous desert may be. It's like you're connected to the entire world, imo. And, if you have the spirit of this guy, you just may be.
trill wrote: I just like seasons and precipitation.
This seems like such an odd argument for AZ over FL. What part of the staet are you in thrill?
Phoenix.
When I say seasons, I mean I don't like hot weather and miss fall and winter. If given the choice between hot and humid and hot and dry, I'm going hot and dry any day. Plus this place is just prettier than Florida.
May I ask why you live out there, then? Job? Family?
trill wrote: I just like seasons and precipitation.
This seems like such an odd argument for AZ over FL. What part of the staet are you in thrill?
Phoenix.
When I say seasons, I mean I don't like hot weather and miss fall and winter. If given the choice between hot and humid and hot and dry, I'm going hot and dry any day. Plus this place is just prettier than Florida.
May I ask why you live out there, then? Job? Family?
