Rave: Weight loss

[The Third Man]

That's my favorite kind of gratification.

[jim]

It's way easier for me to not do something than it is for me to do something extra. Working out suuuuucks.

That's fat people talk.

Working out is incredible. Don't feel attractive? Work out, you'll feel better. Don't feel healthy? Work out, you'll feel better. It's only hard because there isn't instant gratification.

I agree, but mostly I feel better after I am done. The process of doing it - depending on what "it" is - can be a drag. Especially starting out, as a 49 year old with some bumps and bruises and dings from life starting out just flat out hurts. 10 minutes in, better. Starting out, not so good. Which is why more and more I can't workout in the mornings, those early morning jogs are few and far between now. Lunch or after work things have loosened up a bit to where it's not *as* painful starting up.

[Richie Allen]

Why would you want to live eating 2000 calories a day? I'd rather bust my ass exercising so I could eat and drink what I wanted rather than starve myself. I personally think it's stupid to stop eating, because all you do is slow your metabolism. Exercise is more important than diet in losing weight imo. And when I mean exercise I mean exercise. If you are reading a [expletive] book on a machine you aren't exercising. You need to work harder than that if you can. I know age/health status etc make that not possible for some and walking on a treadmill is what you can do, I'm talking about otherwise healthy people that have just become lazy.

As we all know, there's a lot more to health than just weight. You could be your ideal weight by eating a lot, like you do, and exercising a lot...eating very little (which 2000 calories is NOT, by the way) and working out none...or you can eat in moderation a number of times a day, make sure your body gets the right kind of nutrition and still have plenty of energy to work out. I think most people complain that they feel like [expletive] if they all of the sudden try to limit themselves to a 2000 or 2500 calorie diet because they keep eating what they're used to but just eat less. Fine, if you're eating the right things but if you're starting the day with a huge breakfast and then go to Subway for lunch, you're basically done at that point and it's not going to work. I don't like to work out more than an hour a day so I'm probably not going to burn more than 3000 a day. If I want to keep from gaining weight, I need to limit myself to a certain number of calories.

What I'd argue is that if you eat the right things and cut out the wrong ones, a 2000 calorie diet feels filling and, for me, way better than a 3500 calorie diet with 2 or 3 hours of working out. I'm surprised eating the right things typically only gets pointed out in cases of wanting to lose weight. I'm a firm believer that eating the right things, giving your body what it needs, is important in maintaining proper body function. In other words, not all people that weigh 170 pounds are healthy and free from fear of diseases like type II diabetes. Just as all people that weigh 230 are not obese and subject to similar diseases. I think what you're doing, Jim, is much better than someone that starves themselves to weigh their supposed proper weight. I think exercise trumps a low calorie diet as far as overall health is concerned. But I'm finding that eating (what I believe to be) the right things, in moderation, and exercise is what's making me feel best and improving my overall health, as well as a somewhat proper weight.

[jim]

2000 calories is bird feed.

Breakfast:
Bowl of Wheaties + a glass of OJ = 250

Lunch:
1/2 sandwich of lean turkey with no cheese and an apple = 400


Dinner:
Chicken breast, rice, and salad = 500

Evening Snack:
Bag of popcorn and a six pack of beer = 1000 calories.


Boom. Over.

That ain't livin'.

[Richie Allen]

That ain't living because you're obviously drinking watered down light beer. And you aren't getting enough vitamin A, D, E or Potassium. Throw out that watered down piss, add a baked potato, a quarter of a cantaloupe, a carrot and 1/4 cup of sunflower seeds and then reward yourself with a great tasting ale for all the extra calories you burnt from [expletive] all day because you look so damn good.

[jim]

I don't drink watered down beer. Perhaps my calorie count is off, but I don't drink watered down beer. How dare you?

[Richie Allen]

I don't drink watered down beer. Perhaps my calorie count is off, but I don't drink watered down beer. How dare you?

That's good. I didn't think you did but, yes, the calorie count was off. Slap another 45 minutes of working out for a six of standard beer.

[Fat_Bulldog]

As of this Tuesday, I had lost a total of 8 pounds. I will report again this coming Tuesday.

[jim]

I went out for a jog last night at about 10:00 on 3 beers. I had already worked out in the morning, but felt guilty after richie told me about my calorie count being off. I had to stop for a piss, but otherwise it was a nice run. Slow but nice.

[JackofDiamonds]

I went out for a jog last night at about 10:00 on 3 beers. I had already worked out in the morning, but felt guilty after richie told me about my calorie count being off. I had to stop for a piss, but otherwise it was a nice run. Slow but nice.

My growler was flat... so I drank scotch. Saving calories!