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JL21 wrote:I thought that episode was a step back for Justified.
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Dickie's in a jam? He magically gets out of it. Quarles in a jam? He magically gets out of it, twice. Law enforcement side character who's never been anything but background noise suddenly mentions his kid? There couldn't be a more clichéd red flag that he was going to get shot or die. That's just bad writing.

Still a really great season, but that kind of [expletive] is what bugs me about the show from time to time.
The plotting all season long has been...complicated. Too many twists and double-crosses. And Limehouse has done nothing but prep pigs. Still, it's a good set up for what promises to be a killer o a season finale next week.

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I'm surprised to be saying it, but New Girl is one of the better network comedies I've seen in a few years. Very typical setup, but the characters/actors are all very good. It's almost the anti-30 Rock in how much it avoids quick cuts. It's hard to explain but scenes that would normally get cut off after the first joke are allowed to extend and play out, and flow into something else. Almost a little Robert Altman-like, at least in a 30 minute comedy context. And no laugh track, which is a nice bonus.

Another nice thing - the characters aren't overly crude or sarcastic and genuinely give a damn about each other. Almost as refreshing as IASIP, but in the opposite way.

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ghostrunner wrote:I'm surprised to be saying it, but New Girl is one of the better network comedies I've seen in a few years. Very typical setup, but the characters/actors are all very good. It's almost the anti-30 Rock in how much it avoids quick cuts. It's hard to explain but scenes that would normally get cut off after the first joke are allowed to extend and play out, and flow into something else. Almost a little Robert Altman-like, at least in a 30 minute comedy context. And no laugh track, which is a nice bonus.

Another nice thing - the characters aren't overly crude or sarcastic and genuinely give a damn about each other. Almost as refreshing as IASIP, but in the opposite way.
I don't hate it. But that SNL gag, "Quirky" does make me roll my eyes at Zoe D. 2 Broke Girls, for whatever reason, makes me laugh - but not enough to remember when it is on or what channel.

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JL21 wrote:I thought that episode was a step back for Justified.
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Dickie's in a jam? He magically gets out of it. Quarles in a jam? He magically gets out of it, twice. Law enforcement side character who's never been anything but background noise suddenly mentions his kid? There couldn't be a more clichéd red flag that he was going to get shot or die. That's just bad writing.

Still a really great season, but that kind of [expletive] is what bugs me about the show from time to time.
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Yep. Why would Boyd leave Quarles loosely tied to a bed with a couple of drugged up prostitutes? I was wondering all week how he'd get out of it, and that was kind of a let-down.

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What a disarming season finale of Justified.

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Justified...
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Loved the episode, but again- a few big strikes against it.

-Quarles' deathbed confession about Arlo. Again... the show loves its clichés and it drives me nuts.

-Errol's return. Why? What interest at all would he have in coming back, knowing that Limehouse would kill him given the chance? But then he magically appears at exactly the moment that Quarles is about to make off with Limehouse's money.

Other than that, awesome episode. The ending especially, where Raylan points out that his own dad was probably trying to kill him.

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Cole Burns wrote:What a disarming season finale of Justified.
HEY OH

Seriously though, that didn't feel like a Justified season finale. Usually they wrap it up in a box with a badass bow (maybe one with Wild Turkey bottles and glocks on it). Last night's ending was heavy. Maybe it sets it up for some real animosity between Raylan and Boyd next season.

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bob thrill wrote:
Cole Burns wrote:What a disarming season finale of Justified.
HEY OH

Seriously though, that didn't feel like a Justified season finale. Usually they wrap it up in a box with a badass bow (maybe one with Wild Turkey bottles and glocks on it). Last night's ending was heavy. Maybe it sets it up for some real animosity between Raylan and Boyd next season.
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Man, I loved the bit with Raylan pulling Quarles' arm away from him. This show does black humor like that better than anyone. Hell, nobody else does black humor like that.

The "previously" reminded me about Wynn Duffy saying "big fat babyhead" a couple weeks back. Classic, and all the Quarles insults this season have been hilarious. Speaking of older episodes, loved that shot of the gunhole in the floor a few weeks ago when Raylan and the bar owner went upstairs after Quarles left.

The whole Arlo/Raylan thing was pulled off really nicely in the finale. They set it up with Arlo seeming to sincerely apologize and be grateful Raylan wasn't shot (at least I fell for it), and then they pull the rug out from under you with the ending.


Saw this on Sepinwall's blog - the thing with Raylan's gun slipped my mind, even when Art mentioned Gary being shot with it
I liked that so many pieces of the season came back into play, whether the gun that killed Gary (which Yost had to explain to me was the backup gun that Quarles took off of Raylan, and which Raylan told him he could keep) or even a standalone bit like Pruitt Taylor Vince's Russian Roulette game inspiring Raylan's interview with Wynn.

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I tried to convince myself that Catherine Tate's arc on The Office was a brilliant scheme to make us appreciate Steve Carell even more by showing how awful the character would be in the hands of a bad comedic actor, but the writing in this last episode was just too goddam terrible. It's apparent that everyone involved just basically checked out when Carell was leaving the show.

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