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Yeah, the story is good and one of the characters is really good. The writing was execrable, and the movie was basically a made-for-TV movie that was a surprise hit when the books took off.

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I watched Exam this weekend on IFC...I was bored, and it was on.

It was like a combo of Cube and 12 Angry Men...but not as good as either. 6/10.

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Hesher- I enjoyed it quite a bit. Certainly uneven but pretty funny at times and fairly captivating.

Also just got the Woody Allen set from Amazon, looking forward to revisiting these.

Edit: I'm starting to think Annie Hall is my favorite movie of all time.
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cpebbles wrote:Yeah, the story is good and one of the characters is really good. The writing was execrable, and the movie was basically a made-for-TV movie that was a surprise hit when the books took off.
The books were (ostensibly) never meant to be released. It was kind of his Michael Skarn. I sort of enjoyed the book (won't read the other 2), and thought the movie was better (changes aside). Noomi Rapace (Salander) was excellent, I thought. I really don't see Fincher's being better considering the source material.

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It was good, but not great. It stayed about as true to the novel as the European version, though they varied in different ways. I particularly liked what they did with Harald. He isn't the raging, bile-spewing [expletive] he is in the books and in his short appearance in the previous movie. He makes no secret about his past and his politics, but he maintains a very believable slight gentility even as he probes Blomkvist to see if he's a Jew. Rooney Mara is nowhere near as attractive as Noomi Rapace, but I think she is a better actress and made a much more believable character of Lisbeth. Ironically, this will probably hurt the movie's performance because, while her appearance is more outwardly shocking, she is a more subdued character emotionally. The acting in general is quite good, Daniel Craig's refusal to attempt a Swedish accent notwithstanding. Christopher Plummer is a bit wasted, unfortunately. Henrik should have been given more screen time because he is the emotional core of the story and Plummer is plenty good enough an actor to elevate the film.

BTW, the movie is a very hard R.

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For someone who has almost nothing positive to say about the books and original movies other than asides about how the materials for a good story are hidden somewhere beneath all the crap, you have been pretty eagerly consuming all of this stuff. Just sayin.

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bobby bo wrote:For someone who has almost nothing positive to say about the books and original movies other than asides about how the materials for a good story are hidden somewhere beneath all the crap, you have been pretty eagerly consuming all of this stuff. Just sayin.
Really, it would be easier if he just listed the few things he does like...I'm actually interested a cpebbles Top 5 list.

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bobby bo wrote:For someone who has almost nothing positive to say about the books and original movies other than asides about how the materials for a good story are hidden somewhere beneath all the crap, you have been pretty eagerly consuming all of this stuff. Just sayin.
I like Fincher and I think this is an excellent story for him to tackle. I pretty much ignored the book and movie through the initial hype and read/watched them as this movie was getting close.

People who talk about the book like it's an amazing work of literature that this movie cannot live up to are completely talking out of their asses. Without fail they are talking about a bad, rushed translation, and many critics tend to opine that the Swedish original was not much better.

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cpebbles wrote:
bobby bo wrote:For someone who has almost nothing positive to say about the books and original movies other than asides about how the materials for a good story are hidden somewhere beneath all the crap, you have been pretty eagerly consuming all of this stuff. Just sayin.
I like Fincher and I think this is an excellent story for him to tackle. I pretty much ignored the book and movie through the initial hype and read/watched them as this movie was getting close.

People who talk about the book like it's an amazing work of literature that this movie cannot live up to are completely talking out of their asses. Without fail they are talking about a bad, rushed translation, and many critics tend to opine that the Swedish original was not much better.
Ahhh. ok.

I love Fincher so I'm in the same boat, although I think I enjoyed the books more than you, though would never claim they were literary accomplishments.

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The Post Dispatch book editor apparently agrees.
Perhaps it doesn't matter. Both movies are better than the long-winded thriller (heretical talk for a book lover, I know).
Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/b ... z1hCPMdNCP

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