Big12 Breaking Up?

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

If you want to hear t boone pickets sound really dumb go to Texas am espn schedule page (sorry can't link it) and the video that pops up is bob levy talking to pickens. Not that it matters, well, actually it really matters for osu as he basically runs their athletic dept, but you'll get his thoughts on where osu should be.

[Lesson]

http://blog.newsok.com/osu/2011/09/03/s ... ng-big-12/

“We want to be clear that we worked actively to encourage Texas A&M to remain in the Big 12 Conference and regret they decided to leave. We are moving ahead. Oklahoma State University’s athletic program has never been stronger from top to bottom, putting us in a position to explore and pursue options, including the possible expansion of our current conference. We are in close communications with our colleagues at the University of Oklahoma and expect a decision soon that will be in the best interest of our institutions and the state of Oklahoma.”

RIP Big XII.

[JL21]

Oklahoma, Texas talking to Pac 10

The concept of the Pac-16 is again being actively discussed by Pac-12 officials as well as officials at Oklahoma and Texas, a source close to the situation told ESPN's Joe Schad.

Presenting the 2013 Big XII Conference- Missouri, Kansas, Kansas St., Iowa St., Baylor, Pittsburg State, San Jacinto College, Oral Roberts, Oklahoma Wesleyan, Westminster, Western Nebraska Community College, and Houston!

[JoeMcKim]

Now that June Jones has SMU going strong again, Big 12 should seriously consider adding them to their roster if they have no better options.

[Fat Strat]

Now that June Jones has SMU going strong again, Big 12 should seriously consider adding them to their roster if they have no better options.

They should engulf the best of Conf USA and the Mountain West into another super major conference. Doubt they would lose their automatic BCS bid and at the end of the day that's what really matters.

[clevername]

they'd likely lose any kind of big money TV contract, though, and that's extremely important in this whole thing.

Now that the Pac is going to 16, I think the others will, too, and Mizzou has a good chance of ending up in the Big 10. Kansas will be the really interesting one, with a great basketball team that may be left ouf in the cold.

[MrCrowesGarden]

Oklahoma, Texas talking to Pac 10

The concept of the Pac-16 is again being actively discussed by Pac-12 officials as well as officials at Oklahoma and Texas, a source close to the situation told ESPN's Joe Schad.

Presenting the 2013 Big XII Conference- Missouri, Kansas, Kansas St., Iowa St., Baylor, Pittsburg State, San Jacinto College, Oral Roberts, Oklahoma Wesleyan, Westminster, Western Nebraska Community College, and Houston!

Those kids from Scottsbluff really know how to play.

[Lesson]

aTm was accepted by a 10-2 vote.

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http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegespo ... to-expand/

BCS football: Realignment update (Pac-12 CEOs don’t want to expand)

Posted by Jon Wilner on September 6th, 2011 at 5:39 am

Here’s the latest, based on weekend conversations with sources from several conferences and numerous schools:

*** The Pac-12 presidents and chancellors do not want to expand. Their strong preference is for Texas A&M-to-the-SEC to implode and for the Big 12 to remain viable — essentially, they want the status quo for as long as they can get it.

Why? Because they have everything they want.

The conference has stability… it has a football championship game … it has the richest TV deal in college sports history … and it has a wholly-owned network(s) to serve its fans, provide unprecedented exposure for its athletes, promote the league’s academic mission — and generate millions of dollars per school annually once it attains maximum distribution.

The CEOs believe the Pac-12 is the best-positioned conference in the country. They don’t want 16 teams, and they don’t want the SEC and Big Ten going to 16 teams, either.

But …

*** If Texas A&M becomes the SEC’s 13th team, that sets the superconferences in motion.

“The SEC won’t stop at 13, or even 14. And if the SEC is at 14 or 16, the Big Ten will do it,” a source said. ”At that point, (the Pac-12) would be crazy not to entertain the idea of expansion.”

(Multiple sources said the SEC’s 14th team would most likely be Missouri. Combine untapped TV dollars with geography, and the schools that make the most sense for the SEC are Texas A&M, Missouri and Virginia Tech.)

Only if the SEC goes to 13 would the Pac-12 evaluate its options.

It won’t take Oklahoma unless A&M leaves first, despite the accelerated timeline laid out last week by Oklahoma President David Boren.

*** And yes, in all likelihood the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma and Oklahoma State even if Texas were off the table, multiple sources said.

“Right now, it’s wait-and-see mode,” added one. “The happiest result for the Pac-12 is if the status quo is maintained.”

Academics would be a point of contention if the status quo unravels, however.

Sources said that at least five schools (Stanford, Cal, USC, UCLA and Washington) have serious questions about admitting the Oklahoma schools, which are not members of the Association of American Universities.

But when I asked a source close to Stanford president John Hennessy, one of the league’s most influential CEOs, if the AAU issue would be a deal-breaker, the answer was: “Probably not.”

Said another source: “If Larry (Scott) thinks adding (Oklahoma and OSU) is the right thing, the CEOs will ultimately fall in line.”

(Utah is not an AAU member. Nor are Arizona State, Oregon State and Washington State, for that matter.)

*** Would Texas be off the table for the Pac-12?

Sources said the implosion of the Big 12 would leave the Longhorns with only two choices: the Pac-12, or independence.

In other words, the Big Ten is not an option for the Longhorns because the B10 doesn’t want Texas Tech — and TTU would be a package deal with UT.

Taking the independent path would be fraught with challenges for Texas, which would have to find a home for its Olympic sports.

As noted on the Hotline recently, and confirmed by sources in the media-rights industry, there is more money for Texas in the Pac-16 than in the Big 12 or as an Independent — perhaps not in the first few years, but certainly once the league’s TV network(s) ramps up distribution and advertising.

But Texas-to-the-Pac won’t work unless the Longhorns agree to the league’s revenue sharing model, and the CEOs won’t budge on that issue.

So UT would have to swallow its pride and take the same cut as Texas Tech.

(Cue chuckles from Lubbock … and College Station.)

*** At the root of Big 12 destabilization is not Texas A&M’s departure — that’s hardly a death blow — but the deteriorating relationship between Texas and Oklahoma.

“Their bond has frayed,” a source said. “Texas overplayed its hand …

“Oklahoma wants into the Pac-12 with or without Texas. The partnership is no longer sacrosanct.”

*** If massive realignment occurs with the Oklahoma schools, Texas and TTU joining the Pac-12 … and with A&M and Missouri headed to the SEC … then Kansas probably goes to the Big East, likely in tandem with Kansas State.

The Big 12 schools in the biggest trouble would be Baylor and Iowa State.

“They might have to go backwards,” said a source — meaning Conference USA or the Mountain West.

*** A critical but oft-overlooked component to the realignment game is the SEC’s financial aims.

The conference cannot renegotiate its long-term deals with CBS and ESPN without membership change, and in order to get maximum value, it needs 16 teams.

From Gainesville to Knoxville to Baton Rouge, and all points along the way, the feeling among SEC athletic directors can be summed up like this:

“We’ve won five consecutive national titles and the Pac-12 has a richer TV deal than we do. What’s the hell’s going on?”

Hence the sooner-than-expected developments with A&M.

*** The Big Ten won’t expand until it’s time to renegotiate the league’s deals with CBS and ESPN, which expire in 2016, according to a source.

At that point, if the Pac-12 and the SEC have grown to 16 teams, then Notre Dame will join the Big Ten.

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

aTm was accepted by a 10-2 vote.

Where di you see this?

Edited to add:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... ondition/1

Southeastern Conference accepts Texas A&M with condition