2011 NFL Draft Thread

[Popeye_Card]

I get that Newton *could* be a great QB at the NFL level, and you would hate to have to think that you passed on that.

But given the very real threat that he might bust, why on earth would you take him #1? If the decision not to take him burns you, oh well--you got a different great player who was more of a sure thing. If you take him and he busts, you have an expensive, worthless player and no consolation prize.

[MrCrowesGarden]

So what's the consensus here? Is Cam Newton good enough to be taken #1 overall?

Personally, I don't see a big difference between Tim Tebow and Cam Newton. The experts seem to love Cam Newton though....... and they hated Tebow. What am I missing?

Cam Newton is bigger, faster, quicker, has a faster release and stronger arm than Tebow. He's also RH, which doesn't seem like a big deal, but 95% of NFL linemen are used to protection schemes made for a RH QB.

I don't think Newton will be a very good NFL QB, but there's a world of difference between Tebow and Newton.

I think Newton ran a 4.6, and Tebow ran a 4.7. Not a huge difference, from the quarterback position. Tebow is stronger, had a better vertical jump. Tebow had the better 10-yard time and a better 20-yard shuttle time, so I don't think that Newton is necessrily quicker. Tebow's wunderlic was better, and I think he wins the character/work ethic category. Both have been questioned for faulty mechanics.

I don't know. I'm not sure that either is cut out to be an elite NFL QB, but it seems odd to me that Newton is projected as a top 5 pick, and Tebow was thought to be a 3rd rounder.

I think Newton's projection has a lot to do with where Tebow went. I do think Cammy Cam is the better player but not a top 5 player. Still, if someone thinks Tim Tebow is worth a 1st rounder, then I see no reason why Newton wouldn't be.

[lukethedrifter]

1) Blaine Gabbert, Missouri
2) Christian Ponder, Florida State
3) Cam Newton, Auburn
4) Adam Froman, Louisville
5) Jake Locker, Washington
6) Ryan Mallett, Arkansas
7) Greg McElroy, Alabama
8) Ricky Stanzi, Iowa
9) Andy Dalton, T.C.U.
10) Colin Kaepernick, Nevada

I don't know who Matt Waldman is but here's how he ranks 'em. I just know that I would not pick Cam Newton anywhere close to #1.

[Popeye_Card]

Has there ever been a greater disparity between # of teams needing a QB and # of good QB's available in a draft? I think there's a real chance that there are 0 QB's from this draft starting 5 years from now. Despite about 10 teams needing a new QB.

[Socnorb11]

I think Newton's projection has a lot to do with where Tebow went. I do think Cammy Cam is the better player but not a top 5 player. Still, if someone thinks Tim Tebow is worth a 1st rounder, then I see no reason why Newton wouldn't be.

Basically (in my opinion), Newton has the stronger arm, but Tebow has (by far) the stronger intangibles. Sounds a little like Leaf/Manning re-visited (on a lesser level).

[lukethedrifter]

Also, I'd be leery of picking Mallet too high but I guess Bradshaw was a good QB so .... maybe he's got a chance.

[Lesson]

There are rumors out there the Chiefs want to move up to get Pouncey.

Does anyone think that Pioli would actually trade up?

[InvincibleCakeEater]

There are rumors out there the Chiefs want to move up to get Pouncey.

Does anyone think that Pioli would actually trade up?

I do not like the idea of trading up for a guard. Especially when there a couple decent tackles that should be on the board and Brandon Albert has looked fairly meh at LT.

[go birds]

Newton reminds of vince young with prolly a tad better accuracy.

Also that colin kopernickiehsgji kid is shooting up the boards, if i remember correctly.

I know the people on the titans board wanna see him picked up in the 2nd round.

[Leroy]

Who do you guys think the Raiders will take with their 212th pick or whatever?