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vinsanity wrote:Serious question:

What would it take to trade up to #1? The Panthers don't seem to want Gabbert/Newton at #1, Kiper's even suggested they take AJ Green there to help Claussen instead of going after another QB. Is Green worth trading up for that #1?
It would take a lot to get Carolina's pick, as they are infatuated with Newton. I don't know how you can justify trading up to #1 to take a WR.

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Yeah, everything that I have heard is that Carolina is totally going with Newton. Maybe just a whisper campaign to posture, not sure.

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Man, I would almost always look to move down and pick up extra draft picks as opposed to move up.

I heard Devaney use the word panic when talking about your target guys being gone early in the draft. I didn't like hearing it.
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So what's the consensus here? Is Cam Newton good enough to be taken #1 overall?

Personally, I don't see a big difference between Tim Tebow and Cam Newton. The experts seem to love Cam Newton though....... and they hated Tebow. What am I missing?

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Cause Tebow is white

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go birds wrote:Cause Tebow is white
Scouts always go for the black QB.

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Socnorb11 wrote:So what's the consensus here? Is Cam Newton good enough to be taken #1 overall?
Doesn't need to be good enough to go #1 just convince Carolina (or whoever will trade up) that he is.

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Socnorb11 wrote:So what's the consensus here? Is Cam Newton good enough to be taken #1 overall?

Personally, I don't see a big difference between Tim Tebow and Cam Newton. The experts seem to love Cam Newton though....... and they hated Tebow. What am I missing?
Cam Newton is bigger, faster, quicker, has a faster release and stronger arm than Tebow. He's also RH, which doesn't seem like a big deal, but 95% of NFL linemen are used to protection schemes made for a RH QB.

I don't think Newton will be a very good NFL QB, but there's a world of difference between Tebow and Newton.

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InvincibleCakeEater wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:So what's the consensus here? Is Cam Newton good enough to be taken #1 overall?

Personally, I don't see a big difference between Tim Tebow and Cam Newton. The experts seem to love Cam Newton though....... and they hated Tebow. What am I missing?
Cam Newton is bigger, faster, quicker, has a faster release and stronger arm than Tebow. He's also RH, which doesn't seem like a big deal, but 95% of NFL linemen are used to protection schemes made for a RH QB.

I don't think Newton will be a very good NFL QB, but there's a world of difference between Tebow and Newton.
I think Newton ran a 4.6, and Tebow ran a 4.7. Not a huge difference, from the quarterback position. Tebow is stronger, had a better vertical jump. Tebow had the better 10-yard time and a better 20-yard shuttle time, so I don't think that Newton is necessrily quicker. Tebow's wunderlic was better, and I think he wins the character/work ethic category. Both have been questioned for faulty mechanics.

I don't know. I'm not sure that either is cut out to be an elite NFL QB, but it seems odd to me that Newton is projected as a top 5 pick, and Tebow was thought to be a 3rd rounder.

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There has to be a question as to whether Newton can handle an NFL playbook.

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