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cardinalkarp wrote:No I think what you're saying is the sirens should only go off if YOUR immediate area is in danger...if not screw everyone around you.
Or if you are soon to be in danger is fine too. But, yeah, if the storm is not going to hit you/has no chance of hitting you/is past you already then sirens shouldn't go off.

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Sounds pretty unrealistic, no? I mean, these things don't move in straight lines, they aren't exactly predictable.

What you are asking for is that if you hear a siren, something is definitely going down very near you. It's unreasonable and pretty much impossible to do that. This is what I meant when I said this
Faceman wrote: Well, it's about time some of these warnings had teeth. The warning-to-damage ratio was getting awfully low.
If you hear a warning, there had better be real damage / danger, or it was a waste of time. It's not that precise, you err on the side of caution.

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Faceman wrote:Sounds pretty unrealistic, no? I mean, these things don't move in straight lines, they aren't exactly predictable.

What you are asking for is that if you hear a siren, something is definitely going down very near you. It's unreasonable and pretty much impossible to do that. This is what I meant when I said this
Faceman wrote: Well, it's about time some of these warnings had teeth. The warning-to-damage ratio was getting awfully low.
If you hear a warning, there had better be real damage / danger, or it was a waste of time. It's not that precise, you err on the side of caution.

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i don't think tornadoes ever pull a 180 and go 20 miles southwest instead of continuing northeast. If they do, then you sir are correct, and cities/counties should alert people the storm has already passed that it may make a u-turn and come and get them. As a matter of fact, people at Lambert should be scared that the tornado from Friday will return any moment. The two scenarios are about as likely. And, that is something you're obviously concerned about.

Pulaski County was under a tornado warning yesterday for a storm that barely touched the southern part and the actual tornado possibility was a further 30 miles southeast of that little sliver. In other words, or logically thinking here, there were towns 55 miles northwest of the actual possibility that were under a warning. But, so long as they're unpredictable that somehow makes sense I guess.

Your logic - epic fail.

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mile wide tornado entering downtown Birmingham right now. Fortunately will miss me. Already did big damage in Tuscaloosa.

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clevername wrote:mile wide tornado entering downtown Birmingham right now. Fortunately will miss me. Already did big damage in Tuscaloosa.
Holy crap, dude. Stay safe.

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sounds like this one has been pretty devastating. F4 or F5. Parts of Tuscaloosa are "unrecognizable". It skirted the north edge of Birmingham and is closer than I'd like it to be to where my parents live but I can't get through to them.

It's headed to the airport. Hasn't been a good few weeks to be an airport.

I'm expecting big loss of life with this. In Tusacaloosa they are reporting that buildings are completely gone.

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Hopefully nobody was unnecessarily warned

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AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:
Faceman wrote:Sounds pretty unrealistic, no? I mean, these things don't move in straight lines, they aren't exactly predictable.

What you are asking for is that if you hear a siren, something is definitely going down very near you. It's unreasonable and pretty much impossible to do that. This is what I meant when I said this
Faceman wrote: Well, it's about time some of these warnings had teeth. The warning-to-damage ratio was getting awfully low.
If you hear a warning, there had better be real damage / danger, or it was a waste of time. It's not that precise, you err on the side of caution.

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i don't think tornadoes ever pull a 180 and go 20 miles southwest instead of continuing northeast. If they do, then you sir are correct, and cities/counties should alert people the storm has already passed that it may make a u-turn and come and get them. As a matter of fact, people at Lambert should be scared that the tornado from Friday will return any moment. The two scenarios are about as likely. And, that is something you're obviously concerned about.

Pulaski County was under a tornado warning yesterday for a storm that barely touched the southern part and the actual tornado possibility was a further 30 miles southeast of that little sliver. In other words, or logically thinking here, there were towns 55 miles northwest of the actual possibility that were under a warning. But, so long as they're unpredictable that somehow makes sense I guess.

Your logic - epic fail.
No they don't pull a 180 per se but they can easily shift from their NE track to a direct E track or even SE. It's what you call a right mover. Also a tornadic storm can regenerate a circulation on the back side several miles behind the original circulation which can drop a tornado further south then the original circulation but on the same storm.


Glad to here our board members escaped damage in AL today. I'm a severe weather junkie for sure and have chased many times but today got to me. After that one went through Tuscaloosa and "wiped clean" a town in between my mood changed for sure. Then I saw the live footage of a tower cam in Birmingham that showed this mile wide monster and I had to shut the computer down. Just couldn't watch any more. I've seen what the monsters do (I chased Parkersburg Iowa in 08) and the pics I saw looked like that. I had this sick feeling and knew people had died and more were going to. Just couldn't watch any more. My prayers definitely go out to everyone in effected in the south today.

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Tornado warnings were issued for Oswego county earlier tonight due to a pretty big storm moving through the northeast. It's very interesting seeing how a nuclear facility responds to alerts such as this.

For example, if lightning strikes within a 10 mile radius of the plant, an announcement will be made throughout the plant's PA system alerting that our CDF (core damage frequecy) risk level has increased (usually from low to medium) due to a "potential" lightning strike in the area.

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Faceman wrote:Hopefully nobody was unnecessarily warned
hee hee

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