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TheoSqua wrote:If the system uses cookies to store the monthly pageviews i'm pretty sure I could show you 100 developers that would have happily written this for 10 grand.

I don't understand how it cost anything clost to 40million. 4million would still be an absurd price.

$400,000 would likely be paying top-dollar for every aspect of the development. $5m for marketing and promotion maybe.......I just don't see how those numbers add up.
To be fair, apparently a lot of that cost had to with bringing their print subscriber database up to date and integrating it with the web subscriber system. Still seems nuts to me though, but I have no real way to judge.
greenback44 wrote:It sounds like the NYT has two types of revenue in mind here. The first type comes from the public broadcasting-style of reader who wants to support NYT because they've earned that support through journalistic excellence. The NYT is putting a number on the suggested donation, on the theory that concrete terms will encourage people to donate on a regular basis. Maybe iTunes is a better comparison than NPR.
Apparently, they considered a membership model a la public broadcasting and rejected it, though doing it this way may have some of the same properties. I like the iTunes comparison, but I'm not sure that has been much of a success for musicians, and I'm not sure this will be a success for reporting. Quasi-charitable payments are not sufficient.

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Arthur Dent wrote:Quasi-charitable payments are not sufficient.
I'm guessing this isn't the final phase for the NYT's paywall.

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News in Brief
NYTimes.com's Plan To Charge People Money For Consuming Goods, Services Called Bold Business Move

NEW YORK—In a move that media executives, economic forecasters, and business analysts alike are calling "extremely bold," NYTimes.com put into place a groundbreaking new business model today in which the news website will charge people money to consume the goods and services it provides. "The whole idea of an American business trying to make a profit off of a product its hired professionals create on a daily basis is a truly brave and intrepid strategy," said media analyst Steve Messner, adding that NYTimes.com's extremely risky new approach to commerce—wherein legal tender must be exchanged in order to receive a desired service—could drastically reduce the publication's readership. "To ask NYTimes.com's 33 million unique monthly visitors to switch to a cash-for-manufactured-goods-based model from the standard everything-online-should-be-free-for-reasons-nobody-can-really-explain-based model is pretty fearless. It's almost as if The New York Times is equating itself with a business trying to function in a capitalistic society." In a statement released last Thursday, the newspaper's publisher Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, Jr. said, "If this fails, I'd honestly rather The New York Times not exist in a world where people are unwilling to pay the price of a [expletive] movie ticket for a monthly online subscription."
http://www.theonion.com/articles/nytime ... sum,19847/

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Ironically, The Onion doesn't charge for their website, or in their case, even for the physical newspaper.

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Arthur Dent wrote:Ironically, The Onion doesn't charge for their website, or in their case, even for the physical newspaper.
If you were a hipster, you'd get it.

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I got my first "you have exceeded 20 articles for the month" message reading the NY Times today asking me to pay. I promptly deleted my cookies and proceeded to read the article.

Great system they've worked out there.

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That's a lot of articles to read.

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G. Keenan wrote:I got my first "you have exceeded 20 articles for the month" message reading the NY Times today asking me to pay. I promptly deleted my cookies and proceeded to read the article.

Great system they've worked out there.
It's really that easy to get around the pay wall?

And they spent how much to come up with the thing?

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heyzeus wrote:
G. Keenan wrote:I got my first "you have exceeded 20 articles for the month" message reading the NY Times today asking me to pay. I promptly deleted my cookies and proceeded to read the article.

Great system they've worked out there.
It's really that easy to get around the pay wall?

And they spent how much to come up with the thing?
Some of that money went to enhance the chemistry of the company, so outstanding performance is right around the corner.

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heyzeus wrote:
G. Keenan wrote:I got my first "you have exceeded 20 articles for the month" message reading the NY Times today asking me to pay. I promptly deleted my cookies and proceeded to read the article.

Great system they've worked out there.
It's really that easy to get around the pay wall?

And they spent how much to come up with the thing?
My guess is their intended target is the people who routinely ask me "now what is a cookie? somebody said I need to turn those off or people will get in my computer."

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