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Rave: Disunion, Civil War series on the NY Times

Posted: December 27 10, 9:38 am
by G. Keenan
Disunion
One-hundred-and-fifty years ago, Americans went to war with themselves. Disunion revisits and reconsiders America's most perilous period -- using contemporary accounts, diaries, images and historical assessments to follow the Civil War as it unfolded.
The essays that I've read so far have been really interesting, both in their analysis/commentary and in the source material they draw upon. I think a lot of people will find this interesting, even if you're not a history buff, per se. Reading it, I'm struck by how much of the discord in our current politics looks a lot like it did in 1860, even if the specifics have changed. I found the State's Rights entry particularly engaging. In it there is this synopsis of the Fugitive Slave Law of 1850.
The law allowed for the appointment of a federal commissioner in every county of the nation, with the power to hear fugitive slave cases and order the return of an alleged fugitive. It was the country’s first federal law enforcement bureaucracy and the first instance of a federal law enforcement presence at the local level.

The law was dramatically unfair: it denied alleged fugitives a jury trial, access to the writ of habeas corpus and, most astoundingly of all, the right to testify at the hearing. Anyone interfering in the return of a fugitive slave could face six months in jail and a $1,000 fine, an enormous sum in the 1850s.

The worst part of the law was the procedure for paying commissioners. They received $5 if they determined that the alleged slave was in fact a free person, but they got $10 if they decided the person was a slave. Congress had reasoned that if a commissioner found for the slaveowner he would have to fill out a great deal of paperwork, and thus need greater compensation. But for the vast majority of Northerners, this seemed like a crude attempt to buy justice.
What do you even say about that? It's astonishingly immoral, and was a national act of Congress. We're all lucky to be living in an era where the great debate is over whether or not the state should provide health care, and not whether or not it must enforce property rights to human beings.

Re: Rave: Disunion, Civil War series on the NY Times

Posted: December 27 10, 10:19 am
by Freed Roger
Look fwd to reading it. And I agree with your sentiment about being fortunate its only things like healthcare we fight about now. However the core the argument today is more about tribalism- snitches vs sneetches or something else the powerful conjure up for the dopes..

Re: Rave: Disunion, Civil War series on the NY Times

Posted: December 27 10, 12:09 pm
by Michael
Thanks. I can't wait to read this at home.

By the way, if you haven't read Battle Cry of Freedom you should do so ASAP. Great, great single book overview of the Civil War.

Re: Rave: Disunion, Civil War series on the NY Times

Posted: December 27 10, 12:16 pm
by lukethedrifter
Thanks for the heads up. Been getting back into the Civil War since the kid is studying it at school.

Re: Rave: Disunion, Civil War series on the NY Times

Posted: December 27 10, 2:29 pm
by Fat Strat
Michael wrote:Thanks. I can't wait to read this at home.

By the way, if you haven't read Battle Cry of Freedom you should do so ASAP. Great, great single book overview of the Civil War.
Completely agree on Battle Cry of Freedom. It was our text book for a 400 level history course on the Civil War. But don't let that scare you off. By far the best class I took throughout college/grad school.

Re: Rave: Disunion, Civil War series on the NY Times

Posted: December 27 10, 2:51 pm
by lukethedrifter
Fat Strat wrote:
Michael wrote:Thanks. I can't wait to read this at home.

By the way, if you haven't read Battle Cry of Freedom you should do so ASAP. Great, great single book overview of the Civil War.
Completely agree on Battle Cry of Freedom. It was our text book for a 400 level history course on the Civil War. But don't let that scare you off. By far the best class I took throughout college/grad school.
I have read Andersonville, Killer Angels and Gods and Generals, two of which one the Pulitzer. Guess I should check out your rec.

Re: Rave: Disunion, Civil War series on the NY Times

Posted: December 27 10, 5:40 pm
by Spider John
lukethedrifter wrote:
Fat Strat wrote:
Michael wrote:Thanks. I can't wait to read this at home.

By the way, if you haven't read Battle Cry of Freedom you should do so ASAP. Great, great single book overview of the Civil War.
Completely agree on Battle Cry of Freedom. It was our text book for a 400 level history course on the Civil War. But don't let that scare you off. By far the best class I took throughout college/grad school.
I have read Andersonville, Killer Angels and Gods and Generals, two of which one the Pulitzer. Guess I should check out your rec.
I've really enjoyed Killer Angels. Right now I'm in the middle of reading Shelby Foote's trilogy "The Civil War: A Narrative." It covers most every conflict of the war in depth.

Re: Rave: Disunion, Civil War series on the NY Times

Posted: December 27 10, 10:38 pm
by lukethedrifter
lukethedrifter wrote:
Fat Strat wrote:
Michael wrote:Thanks. I can't wait to read this at home.

By the way, if you haven't read Battle Cry of Freedom you should do so ASAP. Great, great single book overview of the Civil War.
Completely agree on Battle Cry of Freedom. It was our text book for a 400 level history course on the Civil War. But don't let that scare you off. By far the best class I took throughout college/grad school.
I have read Andersonville, Killer Angels and Gods and Generals, two of which one the Pulitzer. Guess I should check out your rec.
When the hell did I become illiterate?

Re: Rave: Disunion, Civil War series on the NY Times

Posted: December 29 10, 11:41 am
by Freed Roger
So so many names have perservered or cultural figures intersected/originate from the Civil War - Hookers, Sideburns etc.

this relationship is news to me - Ole Abner does it again

Re: Rave: Disunion, Civil War series on the NY Times

Posted: December 29 10, 6:53 pm
by G. Keenan
I assume this is the same Abner Doubleday credited with inventing baseball, no?