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Is race still an issue for NFL QBs?

Posted: November 29 10, 11:37 am
by Jocephus

Re: Is race still an issue for NFL QBs?

Posted: November 29 10, 1:19 pm
by TheoSqua
He makes a compelling argument, but I think his logic is a little off.

Peyton Manning isn't getting criticized because he only threw 4 Interceptions all year before the last two games. Even then, Manning is on a team that wouldn't even be competitive without him on it. It's hard to fault a QB for losing a game when the only reason the team had a chance of winning was because of that QB. Manning is also not a fringe QB like Campbell, he's one of the most established QBs in league history. It's not like they're benching a 34 year old Warren Moon here. As for McNabb, his problems is almost entirely performance based. And that's not a racial limitation. A lot of people called for Brett Favre's head in New York, and a lot of people are calling for it now.

I do think it's odd that there hasn't really been many superstar caliber black QBs. I wonder if the black athletes who could be superstar-caliber QBs in the NFL aren't playing the QB position, or is it they're not given the opportunity to develop into that?

Also, isn't it interesting that the same 4-5 teams seem to always try black QBs? The Raiders have used Russell and Campbell. The Eagles had Vick and McNabb. The Redskins had McNabb and Campbell. The Titans/Oilers have had Moon/McNair/Young. The Vikings had Dante Culpepper and Tavaris Jackson. Even then, i think it's a hallow argument if you start to dig deeper. There's tons more black QBs than these that have played on other teams. For example Troy Smith is getting a chance in San Francisco.

I do think it's odd that there haven't been many superstar black QBs in the NFL in the last 30 years, but I have absolutely no idea why that is.

Re: Is race still an issue for NFL QBs?

Posted: November 29 10, 1:58 pm
by cpebbles
TheoSqua wrote:I do think it's odd that there haven't been many superstar black QBs in the NFL in the last 30 years, but I have absolutely no idea why that is.
For whatever reason, a lot of the black QBs in the past 20 years have been trying to be the next Randall Cunningham instead of the next Warren Moon. I personally think Tecmo Super Bowl is to blame.

Seriously, the NFL is a passing league, and it's hard to be a star QB there are two QBs in your division throwing for twice as many yards per game as you.

Re: Is race still an issue for NFL QBs?

Posted: November 29 10, 2:01 pm
by Leroy
Theo, right now the Raiders would try a Martian if they thought he could complete a forward pass.

Re: Is race still an issue for NFL QBs?

Posted: November 29 10, 2:03 pm
by InvincibleCakeEater
TheoSqua wrote:He makes a compelling argument, but I think his logic is a little off.
Sexist

Re: Is race still an issue for NFL QBs?

Posted: November 29 10, 2:19 pm
by TheoSqua
InvincibleCakeEater wrote:
TheoSqua wrote:He makes a compelling argument, but I think his logic is a little off.
Sexist
You mean ESPN lets women write stuff?

Re: Is race still an issue for NFL QBs?

Posted: November 29 10, 2:38 pm
by TimeForGuinness
What about Vick, Garrard, Freeman?

Re: Is race still an issue for NFL QBs?

Posted: November 29 10, 2:42 pm
by lukethedrifter
TimeForGuinness wrote:What about Vick, Garrard, Freeman?
If you read the article you'll find that it's not the lack of black QBs but how many opportunities and how much criticism they get.

Re: Is race still an issue for NFL QBs?

Posted: November 29 10, 2:45 pm
by Faceman
the argument seems pretty weak, I mean Jemele basically counterpoints every point she has.

Re: Is race still an issue for NFL QBs?

Posted: November 29 10, 2:52 pm
by Popeye_Card
I have a serious issue with the lack of black placekickers and punters in the NFL. I cannot wait for the day when we can celebrate the first black punter to appear in the Super Bowl.