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Ok thrill, let's here your pre-season analysis. My completely amatuer analysis has the Bulls as a pretty solid team that maybe makes some noise in the playoffs, but has no real chance at a title. 50 wins maybe?

FWIW, Terry Boers, in a very scientific analysis, went down the entire Bulls roster and said "bad" to every name except for Rose, Salmons, and Heinrich. Salmons and Heinrich each got a "mmmnnnnyyy-ok".

Tyrus Thomas told the Tribune the other day that he should be starting because he's an "impact player" and a "game-changer." I agree. Thomas coming into the game certainly changes things.

Taj Gibson looks like he could be an interesting player. Very smart, from what I have read. The Bulls will need all the frontcourt help they can get.

The Bulls lost their best player (Ben Gordon) and added no one of significance. I'd say just making the playoffs would be a good season for the Bulls.

phinstd wrote:The Bulls lost their best player (Ben Gordon) and added no one of significance. I'd say just making the playoffs would be a good season for the Bulls.

Noah made tremendous strides toward the end of last year, and I thought Thomas did as well. What was their record post Salmons trade? I realize Gordon is a loss, but imo Gordon was nowhere close to their best player. He was a one dimensional player that could light it up, but there were also some games where he was busy chucking up rocks all night that probably cost us a game.

I'm optimistic.

We'll see I suppose...I'm not optimistic on the Bulls, and I obviously think Gordon was your best player. He signed with the Pistons for big money, he has to be the best right?

phin ... I'm far from an expert on the NBA game. I love the game, but I'm your average Joe Sixpack idiot fan. Already got my tix for the annual game with me and the boys. It just seemed to me that Gordon was a guy that could carry you, but I also remember games where he seemed pull the entire team down. I wonder if the focus isn't on the games he carried the team and everyone forgets about those games he tanked?

I thought Thomas had a great year last year, I know jack above questions Thomas but I think he made enough strides last year where you could count on him to be a solid starter. I could be wrong for sure, just my impressions.

Also, what is the general consensus of Vinny?

I guess we will find out soon because we open with San Antonio and at Boston, probably without Rose. Even I can see that's probably an 0-2 start which scares me, because they have Cleveland the following week and then Denver and Philly the week after, and then that damn circus is in town. They are a team that because of that long road trip early needs to get out of the gates halfway decent because they can find themselves in a world of hurt if they don't (see 2007-2008).

You're off your rocker if you think Ben Gordon was our best player. Jim hit it on the head. People see the big 4th quarters and late shots. They didn't see the terrible defense and the cold streaks where he'd shoot his way through it and rob Derrick of running his offense.


I'm predicting 38-44 wins and a similar seed in the playoffs as last year. I don't think much overall changes. Losing Gordon is off-set by a healthy Hinrich, Deng and Noah and Rose's development.

I'm worried about Rose's ankle because if he misses significant time, this is a 25-35 win team. Vinny's paying lip service to making defense a priority, but until I see it, I don't believe it. Probably because I think Vinny is bad.

Tyrus is what he is. He'll have huge nights against crappy opponents and he'll disappear against anyone who puts a body on him. He's lazy and way too high an opinion on himself. There's a reason we drafted two power forwards. They were doing anything they could to ship him out, but there were no takers. There's a reason for that.

jim wrote:phin ... I'm far from an expert on the NBA game. I love the game, but I'm your average Joe Sixpack idiot fan. Already got my tix for the annual game with me and the boys. It just seemed to me that Gordon was a guy that could carry you, but I also remember games where he seemed pull the entire team down. I wonder if the focus isn't on the games he carried the team and everyone forgets about those games he tanked?

I thought Thomas had a great year last year, I know jack above questions Thomas but I think he made enough strides last year where you could count on him to be a solid starter. I could be wrong for sure, just my impressions.

Also, what is the general consensus of Vinny?

I guess we will find out soon because we open with San Antonio and at Boston, probably without Rose. Even I can see that's probably an 0-2 start which scares me, because they have Cleveland the following week and then Denver and Philly the week after, and then that damn circus is in town. They are a team that because of that long road trip early needs to get out of the gates halfway decent because they can find themselves in a world of hurt if they don't (see 2007-2008).

My friend, when it comes to the NBA game, I'm probably even less than joe sixpack. I was just saying what I heard on the radio, that Chicago lost their best player, and he just so happened to go to the team I root for (in passing).

This particular NBA preview show seemed to think Chicago is one of two to three teams who will be battling for that last playoff spot. Anything can happen in sports, that's the fun part, right?

Noah was a Florida Gator, he can't possibly be any good.

thrill wrote:You're off your rocker if you think Ben Gordon was our best player. Jim hit it on the head. People see the big 4th quarters and late shots. They didn't see the terrible defense and the cold streaks where he'd shoot his way through it and rob Derrick of running his offense.


I'm predicting 38-44 wins and a similar seed in the playoffs as last year. I don't think much overall changes. Losing Gordon is off-set by a healthy Hinrich, Deng and Noah and Rose's development.

I'm worried about Rose's ankle because if he misses significant time, this is a 25-35 win team. Vinny's paying lip service to making defense a priority, but until I see it, I don't believe it. Probably because I think Vinny is bad.

Tyrus is what he is. He'll have huge nights against crappy opponents and he'll disappear against anyone who puts a body on him. He's lazy and way too high an opinion on himself. There's a reason we drafted two power forwards. They were doing anything they could to ship him out, but there were no takers. There's a reason for that.

I'm reading a whole lof of seeing it with your heart, rather than your head in this post. Just my personal opinion...if the Bulls get to 44 wins, I'll be pretty surprised, but the East is terrible out of the top teams, so who knows.

phinstd wrote:I'm reading a whole lof of seeing it with your heart, rather than your head in this post. Just my personal opinion...if the Bulls get to 44 wins, I'll be pretty surprised, but the East is terrible out of the top teams, so who knows.

Lol. I don't know how much you pay attention to the NBA or to my posts, but I can assure you there's no heart in that post. Or the majority of my posts.

They won 41 games last year with two of their 4 best players missing most of the season. Their best player was a 20 year old rookie of the year. I don't think predicting 38-44 wins is exactly going out on a limb. You can go ahead and keep getting your NBA analysis by listening to sports radio in passing and tell me my thinking a mediocre team having a mediocre record is going out on a limb. I'm ok with that if you're ok with me putting exactly no stock in what you have to say about basketball.