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lukethedrifter wrote:But he's in favor of changing Washington. Plus, Crooked Hillary.

Sad!

USA Today is just hammering the DNC and Hill for the chair/email issues. Check out their cover today (huge):
http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages ... fp_id=USAT

I really wish Biden had run.

heyzeus wrote:

Radbird wrote:

Freed Roger wrote:

Joe Shlabotnik wrote:

Radbird wrote:What does Trump owe Putin for the DNC email hack? Estonia?

Well, we know who Putin DOESNT want to be President. Who wants to vote for the candidate Vladimir Putin endorses? Not me.

IIRC, Berlusconi and Putin were pals too.

Paul Manafort, Donald Trump’s top adviser, and his ties to pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine

It's not just Manafort, it's Trump himself with the frightening ties to the Putin and his Russian underworld supporters. As banks have gradually refused to lend to Trump (probably due to the bankruptcies), he has turned to shadowy pro-Putin Russian sources for his financing. It's unsurprising that Trump is now praising Putin as a great leader, talking about not defending NATO allies that Russia has its eyes on, and benefiting from a Russian hack of the DNC servers. That's just how demagogue dictators do favors for eachother.

No big deal though, this is just our democratic republic going down the tubes here.

Here we go.....the left gets caught conspiring to get Hilary nominated and now they blame trump . Not upset with their corruption but upset they were caught red handed....the demo mantra.....deflect....go for cover....then create another diversion....this week ought to be good

M1IRONMIKE wrote:

heyzeus wrote:

Radbird wrote:

Freed Roger wrote:

Joe Shlabotnik wrote:

Radbird wrote:What does Trump owe Putin for the DNC email hack? Estonia?

Well, we know who Putin DOESNT want to be President. Who wants to vote for the candidate Vladimir Putin endorses? Not me.

IIRC, Berlusconi and Putin were pals too.

Paul Manafort, Donald Trump’s top adviser, and his ties to pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine

It's not just Manafort, it's Trump himself with the frightening ties to the Putin and his Russian underworld supporters. As banks have gradually refused to lend to Trump (probably due to the bankruptcies), he has turned to shadowy pro-Putin Russian sources for his financing. It's unsurprising that Trump is now praising Putin as a great leader, talking about not defending NATO allies that Russia has its eyes on, and benefiting from a Russian hack of the DNC servers. That's just how demagogue dictators do favors for eachother.

No big deal though, this is just our democratic republic going down the tubes here.

Here we go.....the left gets caught conspiring to get Hilary nominated and now they blame trump . Not upset with their corruption but upset they were caught red handed....the demo mantra.....deflect....go for cover....then create another diversion....this week ought to be good

OR IS IT BOTH??

Jim, jump in here. Is mike saying he's good with Trump's Russian connection or just ignoring in favor of going after Hillary?
My bias is I am in favor of a Bernie Sanders revolution.

I watched her on 60 Minutes and I swear she still doesn't understand or get it. She said things like "The Hillary Standard" meaning she is being singled out. She came across to me sounding whiney. She's just awful.

Obama never once that I can recall hinted that a person would not vote for him because of any other reason than they disagreed with his policy. We all know that's not true - there are people that didn't vote for him because he's black or thought he was Muslim or whatever. Maybe I'm mis remembering but I just don't remember this whaa-whaa crap from him like I hear from Clinton.

I really believe she is going to lose, and that's not endorsement of Trump btw. She is just a terrible terrible presidential candidate. You just hear her speak and want to go take a shower to wash the stink off.

How the hell did this happen?

The DNC is really stupid and all the Clinton people need to get booted from it some time soon. Those emails make pretty clear they operate out of fear. I don't think it was rigged - they had a favored candidate and it's the party system, but why not put Hillary through a real test as much as possible? And throw up a full slate of candidates.

Donna Brazile has taken over as interim chair, and she's got some icky emails in there too. DWS is now Clinton's honorary chairperson - i have no idea if that's a real position or truly just honorary. I expect it's the best way they could get rid of her, but still looks bad for Hillary IMO.

Having said all that, Trump is a xenophobe/sexist/nationalist/isolationist, and the libertarians want to dismantle much of the government on principle. Jill Stein is a nutcase. So I'm still voting for Hillary for the next 4 years. Sad!

Also - it might be how it goes, but it's a little disturbing that DWS thinks she can just email MSNBC and tell them any negative comments about Clinton "have to stop." Hopefully that was her trying to swing her dick and it doesn't seem to me MSNBC complied, but how about just stay out of the press coverage altogether and answer honestly whatever criticism you get?

ghostrunner wrote:I really wish Biden had run.

I bet he does, too.

jim wrote:I watched her on 60 Minutes and I swear she still doesn't understand or get it. She said things like "The Hillary Standard" meaning she is being singled out. She came across to me sounding whiney. She's just awful.

Obama never once that I can recall hinted that a person would not vote for him because of any other reason than they disagreed with his policy. We all know that's not true - there are people that didn't vote for him because he's black or thought he was Muslim or whatever. Maybe I'm mis remembering but I just don't remember this whaa-whaa crap from him like I hear from Clinton.

I really believe she is going to lose, and that's not endorsement of Trump btw. She is just a terrible terrible presidential candidate. You just hear her speak and want to go take a shower to wash the stink off.

How the hell did this happen?

You are correct about Obama. He was accused of playing the race card ad nauseum, but he never actually did that. He did occasionally talk about race. Probably even in a way that made some people uncomfortable. But there is not one time that he played victim. Frankly, I don't know how he did it because Lord knows they tried prodding him into it dozens and dozens of times.

Arsewipe's praise of Saddam Hussein's methods of keeping law and order -I realize the pace of his manic commentary is hard to keep up with - but it sort of flew under the radar.

Needless to say, we committed a lot of lives, ours and innocent civilians to opposing Saddam, as well as economically-damaging amounts of resources.

FWIW, I opposed the Iraq war, especially the go-it-alone strategy. And am not alone in thinking it was a disaster with long-term effects. That does not mean I am somehow in agreement with the Arse on Saddam. It's a completely reckless comment about a terrible murderous dictator.

Tie this with his views with Putin, and all the other [expletive] he says... I dunno....my gut says he isn't capable of imposing Strongman rule over the US like his buddies Saddam and Putin.... Hell, I don't think he's capable of strongman rule over a country club or hotel (see bankruptcies, Trump U,). But hard to say what he'll do with that sociopathic ego, and the cohorts he cozies up to.

Anyhows, I don't understand how other people (people that openly or effectively support Trump) can reconcile his statements on Saddam Putin with their views on humanity, as well as national security.