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Re: 2016 Election Thread (My God Kill Me Now)
Posted: July 21 16, 4:10 pm
by Arthur Dent
So, back to the relative concern arguments, this seems like kind of a big deal that should be profoundly disturbing to national security voters, and certainly fans of Reagan's international security views.
Re: 2016 Election Thread (My God Kill Me Now)
Posted: July 21 16, 4:18 pm
by Radbird
I like Ryan Lizza's profile pic.

Re: 2016 Election Thread (My God Kill Me Now)
Posted: July 21 16, 5:05 pm
by ghostrunner
pioneer98 wrote:Not all Trump voters are racist. But a lot of racists are Trump voters.
All Trump voters are either ignoring or accepting racism. When he said Mexico is sending rapists and murderers, something which is objectively untrue, he intentionally courted racism and xenophobia. Whether or not Trump holds racist beliefs, he's deliberately playing to racists. I'm not sure there's even a difference. There's no need to go as far as parsing out dog whistles or guessing at what percentage of his supporters are racists. They're all choosing to look right past it.
Re: 2016 Election Thread (My God Kill Me Now)
Posted: July 21 16, 5:47 pm
by wart57
ghostrunner wrote:pioneer98 wrote:Not all Trump voters are racist. But a lot of racists are Trump voters.
All Trump voters are either ignoring or accepting racism. When he said Mexico is sending rapists and murderers, something which is objectively untrue, he intentionally courted racism and xenophobia. Whether or not Trump holds racist beliefs, he's deliberately playing to racists. I'm not sure there's even a difference. There's no need to go as far as parsing out dog whistles or guessing at what percentage of his supporters are racists. They're all choosing to look right past it.
Here is the actual quote:
QUOTE: "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
See, that last part makes it all better.
Re: 2016 Election Thread (My God Kill Me Now)
Posted: July 21 16, 6:04 pm
by Myles
haltz wrote:I think Trump and Hillary are both criminals and liars, art of the deal-masters of the universe, but the difference is that Hillary is actually good at it.
I agree. That is why Hillary scares me more.
Re: 2016 Election Thread (My God Kill Me Now)
Posted: July 21 16, 6:09 pm
by Myles
ghostrunner wrote:pioneer98 wrote:Not all Trump voters are racist. But a lot of racists are Trump voters.
All Trump voters are either ignoring or accepting racism. When he said Mexico is sending rapists and murderers, something which is objectively untrue, he intentionally courted racism and xenophobia..
It IS a fact that illegals have committed rape and murder.
If you think the average illegal is a quality person, you have been deceived.
Re: 2016 Election Thread (My God Kill Me Now)
Posted: July 21 16, 6:14 pm
by Schlich
wart57 wrote:jim wrote:haltz wrote:This Khalaf guy just doesn't get it: Paul Ryan is does not represent me or my thoughts so I therefore must make him a racist.
I don't think he's saying Paul Ryan is racist. I think he's ing that Paul Ryan doesn't understand or isn't sympathetic to the systemic racism of privilege and nepotism that exists on Capitol Hill. I didn't read the article though so I might be wrong.
No of course he isn't saying Ryan is a racist, he was saying the opposite. I was being sarcastic. Other than this site I don't have any social networking site, but I'm sensing from google searches that this picture is going viral as they say. People blaming Ryan, the Republicans etc... Nobody fact checked it. What is he really supposed to do? He lectured a group of interns, and then took a picture of the people that showed up for it.
If the intern I quoted is correct, and that there are in general a lack of minorities in these types of programs, what does it say about the Democratic picture taken? Is that REALLY representative of the intern program, or
did they go out of their way to make a picture that fit their agenda?
Democrats would never lie to further their political agenda....
Nah, Democrats would just pretend that hiring black interns marks meaningful progress and use it as a subliminal excuse to ignore systemic injustices.
Re: 2016 Election Thread (My God Kill Me Now)
Posted: July 21 16, 6:16 pm
by haltz
Myles wrote:ghostrunner wrote:pioneer98 wrote:Not all Trump voters are racist. But a lot of racists are Trump voters.
All Trump voters are either ignoring or accepting racism. When he said Mexico is sending rapists and murderers, something which is objectively untrue, he intentionally courted racism and xenophobia..
It IS a fact that illegals have committed rape and murder.
If you think the average illegal is a quality person, you have been deceived.
All of the evidence I've seen points to the contrary. Care to back that [expletive] up?
Re: 2016 Election Thread (My God Kill Me Now)
Posted: July 21 16, 6:24 pm
by TGantz
Myles wrote:ghostrunner wrote:pioneer98 wrote:Not all Trump voters are racist. But a lot of racists are Trump voters.
All Trump voters are either ignoring or accepting racism. When he said Mexico is sending rapists and murderers, something which is objectively untrue, he intentionally courted racism and xenophobia..
It IS a fact that illegals have committed rape and murder.
If you think the average illegal is a quality person, you have been deceived.
Yikes.
Re: 2016 Election Thread (My God Kill Me Now)
Posted: July 21 16, 6:24 pm
by ghostrunner
Myles wrote:ghostrunner wrote:pioneer98 wrote:Not all Trump voters are racist. But a lot of racists are Trump voters.
All Trump voters are either ignoring or accepting racism. When he said Mexico is sending rapists and murderers, something which is objectively untrue, he intentionally courted racism and xenophobia..
It IS a fact that illegals have committed rape and murder.
If you think the average illegal is a quality person, you have been deceived.
You might think about that last sentence again.
I'm sure it is true that some have committed violent crimes. But Mexico isn't sending anyone, and illegals don't commit these crimes at a higher rate than legal citizens. What he said is a lie that is meant to appeal to racists and xenophobes.