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MrCrowesGarden wrote:
Izzyman wrote:This is what Mayo thinks. I reallyhope he's wrong.

18. St. Louis Cardinals: Jake Arrieta, RHP, Texas Christian University
There was a temptation to put a Boras guy here because the Cardinals can do that, but it didn't make sense to force the issue, especially with Andrew Brackman missing regional play with some elbow trouble. Instead, I'll go with a "safe" pick in Arrieta. He's had an up-and-down season, but he turned in a dandy at UNLV in conference tournament play and pitched well in Regional action in the scouts' last look at him. The Cardinals have enjoyed the Lone Star State in recent drafts and even took a Horned Frog pitcher last year, Brad Furnish.
Last projection: Arrieta
Since Luhnow said we are going for a "home run" at 18, I don't think we have to worry about that one.

Arrieta at 36 might not be too bad though.
I didn't know Luhnow said that. I hope that's what happens.

Maybe a top prep pitcher will fall to us if not I hope we take Main as an outfielder.

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jdk82 wrote:His draft status according to BA all depends on if he can catch, if he can catch he will really boost his stock. It wouldnt surprise me to see him taken right around the 5th round or so.
He CAN catch. He's been cleared medically to do so. Jamieson just didn't want to risk playing him in the field and him hitting a setback before the draft.

Prior to having the shoulder surgery, it was believed that he'd never catch again. They thought it was a torn rotator cuff. The surgery went well, and the shoulder wasn't as damaged as they originially believed. He was cleared to throw play in the field a month ago, and teams have been checking his medical records.

I can't imagine what his offensive number would have been like if he hadn't been recovering from surgery.

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BW23 wrote:
jdk82 wrote:His draft status according to BA all depends on if he can catch, if he can catch he will really boost his stock. It wouldnt surprise me to see him taken right around the 5th round or so.
He CAN catch. He's been cleared medically to do so. Jamieson just didn't want to risk playing him in the field and him hitting a setback before the draft.

Prior to having the shoulder surgery, it was believed that he'd never catch again. They thought it was a torn rotator cuff. The surgery went well, and the shoulder wasn't as damaged as they originially believed. He was cleared to throw play in the field a month ago, and teams have been checking his medical records.

I can't imagine what his offensive number would have been like if he hadn't been recovering from surgery.
There's also a difference between being able to medically able to catch, and being good enough to stick at catcher. Two meanings to that phrase.

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Oh, no question. I don't dispute that. But there were questions before as to whether he'd ever catch again, and those questions aren't there anymore. Is he good enough to catch? I don't know.

I'm sure there were questions coming out of high school when scouts watched him. Some thought yes, some thought no. If not for the injury, he would have been the primary catcher for MU the last two seasons, and that would have helped that determination even more.

He's caught his entire life until college, and I think he was pretty good. He needed to improve some of his mechanics behind the plate, but he wasn't completely sloppy or anything either. He had a good arm, but he'll have to prove that he's made it back or will make it back...IF he does.

Either way, teams have told him that he'll get drafted for his bat, and with the way he hit over his last 27-30 games or so, his bat certainly isn't a question mark.

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Here is BA tools rankings

BEST ATHLETE
College
1 Corey Brown, of, Oklahoma State (29)
2 Julio Borbon, of, Tennessee (19)
3 Collin DeLome, of, Lamar (108)
High School
1 Wendell Fairley, of, George County-Lucedale (Miss.) HS (40)
2 Chad Jones, of, Southern Lab HS, Baton Rouge, La. (92)
3 Michael Main, rhp/of, Deland (Fla.) HS (23)


BEST PURE HITTER
College
1 Brad Suttle, 3b, Texas (34)
2 Matt Mangini, 3b, Oklahoma State (52)
3 Matt Wieters, c, Georgia Tech (2)
High School
1 Josh Vitters, 3b, Cypress (Calif.) HS (3)
2 Mike Moustakas, 3b, Chatsworth (Calif.) HS (5)
3 Kevin Ahrens, 3b, Memorial HS, Houston (28)


BEST POWER HITTER
College
1 Kyle Russell, of, Texas (35)
2 Beau Mills, 3b/1b, Lewis-Clark State (Idaho) (12)
3 Matt LaPorta, 1b, Florida (20)
High School
1 Mike Moustakas, 3b, Chatsworth (Calif.) HS (5)
2 Josh Vitters, 3b, Cypress (Calif.) HS (3)
3 Michael Burgess, of, Hillsborough HS, Tampa (30)


BEST STRIKE-ZONE JUDGMENT
College
1 Josh Horton, ss, North Carolina (64)
2 Matt LaPorta, 1b, Florida (20)
3 Matt Wieters, c, Georgia Tech (2)
High School
1 Jason Heyward, of, Henry County HS, McDonough, Ga. (9)
2 Josh Vitters, 3b, Cypress (Calif.) HS (3)
3 Nick Noonan, 2b, Parker HS, San Diego (41)


FASTEST BASERUNNER
College
1 Lee Haydel, of, Delgado (La.) CC (75)
2 Adrian Ortiz, of, Pepperdine (182)
3 Julio Borbon, of, Tennessee (19)
High School
1 Ben Revere, of, Lexington (Ky.) Catholic HS (135)
2 Gary Brown, of/2b, Diamond Bar HS, Walnut, Calif. (77)
3 Wendell Fairley, of, George County-Lucedale (Miss.) HS (40)
BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER
College
1 Zack Cozart, ss, Mississippi (59)
2 Preston Clark, c, Texas (103)
3 Danny Worth, ss, Pepperdine (101)
High School
1 Matt Dominguez, 3b, Chatsworth (Calif.) HS (18)
2 Travis d’Arnaud, c, Lakewood (Calif.) HS (49)
3 Devin Mesaraco, c, Punxsutawney (Pa.) HS (24)


BEST ARM STRENGTH
College
1 Matt Wieters, c, Georgia Tech (2)
2 Preston Clark, c, Texas (103)
3 Zack Cozart, ss, Mississippi (59)
High School
1 Danny Rams, c/1b, Gulliver Prep, Miami (105)
2 Mike Moustakas, 3b, Chatsworth (Calif.) HS (5)
3 Austin Romine, c, El Toro HS, Lake Forest, Calif. (117)


BEST FASTBALL
College
1 Andrew Brackman, rhp, North Carolina State (7)
2 David Price, lhp, Vanderbilt (1)
3 Casey Weathers, rhp, Vanderbilt (22)
High School
1 Jarrod Parker, rhp, Norwell (Ind.) HS (10)
2 Rick Porcello, rhp, Seton Hall Prep, West Orange, N.J. (4)
3 Michael Main, rhp/of, Deland (Fla.) HS (23)


BEST SECONDARY PITCH
College
1 David Price, lhp, Vanderbilt (1)
2 Brett Cecil, lhp, Maryland (25)
3 Sean Morgan, rhp, Tulane (88)
High School
1 Josh Smoker, lhp, Calhoun (Ga.) HS (16)
2 Rick Porcello, rhp, Seton Hall Prep, West Orange, N.J. (4)
3 Blake Beavan, rhp, Irving (Texas) HS (13)


BEST COMMAND
College
1 James Simmons, rhp, UC Riverside (47)
2 Wes Roemer, rhp, Cal State Fullerton (65)
3 Jonathan Holt, rhp, Tampa (148)
High School
1 Tim Alderson, rhp, Horizon HS, Scottsdale, Ariz. (33)
2 Jack McGeary, lhp/1b, Roxbury Latin HS, West Roxbury, Mass. (27)
3 Kyle Blair, rhp, Los Gatos (Calif.) HS (50)


CLOSEST TO MAJORS
College
1 David Price, lhp, Vanderbilt (1)
2 Casey Weathers, rhp, Vanderbilt (22)
3 James Simmons, rhp, UC Riverside (47)
High School
1 Josh Vitters, 3b, Cypress (Calif.) HS (3)
2 Tim Alderson, rhp, Horizon HS, Scottsdale, Ariz. (33)
3 Rick Porcello, rhp, Seton Hall Prep, West Orange, N.J. (4)

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If you want to know the basics of the draft here they are

WHEN

Thursday, June 7 (from 2 p.m. to approximately 8:30) and Friday, June 8 (from 11:30 a.m. until the end)


(The event could possibly stretch into Saturday, June 9, though baseball officials swear they will wrap up on Friday.)


WHAT

Major League Baseball's first-year player draft is held every June, and this year it begins on a Thursday for the first time in years, changing from its usual Tuesday beginning.


Most of the draft is conducted as a conference call by MLB with the 30 major league clubs. The clubs take turns selecting players in reverse order of their win-loss percentage from the previous season, regardless of league.

For the first time ever, this year the first round of the draft will be conducted live in Orlando and will be broadcast by ESPN2.


The draft will last no more than 50 rounds, but it could theoretically be shorter. Each club is allowed to select for 50 rounds but is not required to do so. In recent years, just a few clubs have dropped out before the end of the 50th round, but more clubs are expected to do so because of changes that eliminate the draft-and-follow process.

The Devil Rays have the first pick this year for the third time in franchise history. Their previous No. 1 selections were both high school outfielders: Josh Hamilton in 1999 and Delmon Young in 2003.


WHERE

For the first time, there's actually a "where" for the draft. To allow for a television broadcast, the event will be held at The Milk House at Disney's Wide World of Sports complex in Lake Buena Vista, Fla., near Orlando.

HOW

The draft begins at 2 p.m. Eastern on June 7, and teams will have five minutes to make selections in the first round--again, for television purposes.
After that, the picks will move in rapid succession. A team continues drafting players until it passes, finishes making picks or the draft ends.

The scout responsible for a player's selection will generally contact the player by phone immediately after the selection. No team may draft a player unless the player's name is registered with the commissioner's office.

The team that selects a player has the sole negotiating rights to the player and must submit a written minor league contract within 15 days of selection. Failure to do so no longer makes players free agents, however. The rule was changed after the 1996 free-agent fiasco, when several players took advantage of a loophole to become free agents and sign for much larger deals.

The most significant rule change with this year's draft involves a universal signing date. All draft picks must now sign by Aug. 15, or they go back into the draft pool. In previous years, players who went to junior college or simply did not return to school were eligible to sign with the team that drafted them until a week before the next year's draft.

Teams get extra picks through free-agent compensation or for failure to sign draft picks from previous drafts. (You can click here to get a detailed breakdown of this year's adjustments and more information about free-agent compensation.)

There are no extra selections due to unsigned picks this year, but that could change. To encourage teams to take a harder line on signing bonuses, MLB pushed through a rule change for unsigned picks in the first three rounds, beginning with this draft.

If a team doesn't sign a pick in the first or second round, it gets a pick in essentially the same slot in the next draft. Previously, unsigned first-rounders merited a pick at the end of the supplemental first round. Unsigned picks beyond that drew no compensation. So if the Pirates didn't sign the No. 4 pick this year, they would get a pick just after No. 4 next year (which would be labeled as 4-A).

Unsigned third-round picks will merit a supplemental pick between the third and fourth rounds next year. The hope from MLB's perspective is that teams will be more willing to walk away from a draft pick (and exorbitant bonus) if they know they will get an equivalent pick the next year.

WHO

Major league Rule 4 governs which players are eligible for the draft. These rules are detailed, but the basic criteria are as follows:

A player is eligible for selection if he is a resident of the United States or Canada and has never signed a major league or minor league contract. (Contracts with independent professional leagues don't count.)

Residents of Puerto Rico and other territories of the United States are also eligible for the draft. Also considered are players who enroll in a high school or college in the United States, regardless of where they are from originally.

The basic categories of players eligible to be drafted are:

• High school players, if they have graduated from high school and have not yet attended college or junior college;

• College players (from four-year colleges) who have either completed their junior or senior years or are at least 21 years old. College players who have dropped out of school can apply for the draft by writing the commissioner's office no later than March 20;

• Junior college players, regardless of how many years of school they have completed;

• Anyone who is 21 within 45 days of the draft date.

A player who is drafted and does not sign with the club that selected him may be drafted again in a future draft, whenever he meets the eligibility requirements. A club may not select a player again in a subsequent year unless the player consents to it in writing.
A player who is eligible for the draft and is passed over by every club becomes a free agent and may sign with any club, until one week before the next draft or until the player enters or returns to a four-year college, or returns to a junior college.

A player who is a fifth-year college senior may sign a minor league contract as soon as he finishes his last class in college.

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1. Tampa Bay Devil Rays - David Price, LHP - Vanderbilt

Price is a big lefty with two plus pitches and a solid change. The other two players that the Rays are looking at are 3B Josh Vitters and C Matt Wieters

2. Kansas City Royals - Rick Porcello, RHP - Seton Hall Prep (New Jersey)

Porcello is probably the top rated RHP on most draft boards and is a projectable RHP with a plus fastball and a plus curveball. He is advised by Scott Boras and could fall if teams think his asking price is too high. If the Royals go another way they're looking at LHP Ross Detwiler and C Matt Wieters. If the Rays do not select Price he's probably going here.

3. Chicago Cubs - Josh Vitters, 3B - Cypress HS (California)

Vitters came into May as the consensus top prep bat, but Mike Moustakas has at the least caught him and in some eyes passed him. He's a great pure hitter but his power may not develop to more than 25 HR. He's stiff defensively and at best would develop into an average 3B. This is a tough pick to project. With the Cubs impending sale, they could go cheap here. The other two options here seem to be RHP Jarrod Parker and surprisingly 1B Sean Doolittle.

4. Pittsburgh Pirates - Devin Mesoraco, C - Punxsatawney HS (Pennsylvania)

This is a tough pick to project. They would prefer a bat, but don't want an expensive one so cross off Mike Moustakas and the Boras Boys. They've worked out Mesoraco at PNC and like him. He's a plus defensive catcher with solid batting tools. He's been flying up the draft boards the last week and would be a slight reach here. The other names being linked here are 3B Matt Mangini and 3B/1B Beau Mills. A name that hasn't been heavily linked here who I think may wind up if the Pirates go HS bat would be Jason Heyward who would be the top prep bat that's not Boras represented. If Vitters is here, he's the choice, easy.

5. Baltimore Orioles - Ross Detwiler, LHP - Missouri State

The O's want a pitcher and want an advanced one. There are no RHPs worth drafting now and the best available is either Ross Detwiler or Daniel Moskos. The O's love Detwiler and have been on his trail for awhile. Detwiler throws in the low to mid 90s with a hard curve around 80.

6. Washington Nationals - Daniel Moskos, LHP - Clemson

Money does not appear to be an issue here and they're probably looking for an arm. If Porcello starts to slide because of cash the Nats could grab him. If Wieters continues to fall, it's possible he could go here. Recently they've been linked to Mike Moustakas. I think that they'll pass on the bats and take the best arm they can get that is advanced. Moskos throws in the low to mid 90s with a very good slider. Other possibilities here are RHP Pillippe Aumont and 3B Mike Moustakas.

7. Milwauke Brewers - Phillippe Aumont, RHP - Ecole Du Versant HS (Quebec)

Aumont's a big 6'7" guy whose fastball has been up to 96. He's raw and shows a potenetial plus slider. The Brewers always draft out of Canada as good as anyone and have been linked to 3B Mike Moustakas the most outside of Aumount. Jarrod Parker is also a possibility. The Brewers were also running out crosscheckers to GT to scout C Matt Wieters.

8. Colorado Rockies - Jarrod Parker, RHP - Norwell HS (Indiana)

The set-up is simple here. If Moskos or Detwiler are available they're going to Colorado. They want a college arm but in this scenario there are't any ones that aren't a huge reach. LHP Nick Schmidt is probably going to be the next one off the board, but he's probably a back end of the first round guy. His upside isn't very high. Without any logical options they'll take the best arm, Jarrod Parker. Parker has the best fastball on the prep side of the draft routinely hitting 98 working 94-96. Stuffwise, he was better than Porcello all season long. The lone knock on him is his size. He has a plus mid 80s slider and a decent power curve.

9. Arizona Diamondbacks - Mike Moustakas, 3B/C - Chatsworth HS (California)

Since they signed Scherzer they could be going with a reliever and may not be willing to fight with Scott Boras again. Casey Weathers is a nice option here, but a falling batin this mock would be Mike Moustakas. Moustakas may be the best prep bat in the draft and the Backs would probably jump on him if he's here. Moustakas has plus-plus power and a plus-plus arm.

10. San Francisco Giants - Beau Mills, 3B/1B - Lewis-Clarke State

The Giants have a pipeline from LCS and Mills fits what they usually take. They have a lot of picks this year so probably cannot afford to take a tough sign. Another option here would be LHP Madison Bumgarner. Mills is a corner infielder who should DH. He has 30 HR power but offers nothing defensively.

11. Seattle Mariners - Blake Beavan, RHP - Irving HS (Texas)

The Mariners need an arm and could be looking for an advanced one. They could be one of the first teams to take a chance on RHP Andrew Brackman and could also take a long look at RHP Casey Weathers. Other than they could go expensive and nab the expensive RHP Matt Harvey, but Blake Beavan's every bit as good and is an easier sign. LHP Madison Bumgarner could also be an option. Beavan has an electric sinking fastball that runs 92-96 and compliments it with a plus-plus slider that is his best pitch.

12. Florida Marlins - Jason Heyward, 1B/OF - Henry County HS (Georgia)

The Marlins are going to take best available as long as he's in their budget. Heyward has among the highest bat potential in the draft. He has plus-plus power, plus plate discipline and plus hitting ability. Some scouts compare him to a young Frank Thomas with his power, patience and hitting ability. He's likely to wind up at 1B in the majors. The choices here are wide open. If one of the above HS pitchers or Moustakas fall they could go here.

13. Cleveland Indians - Madison Bumgarner LHP - South Caldwell HS (North Carolina)

The Indians have been linked to every and all HS pitchers that fall. In this scenario Madison Bumgarner, LHP Josh Smoker and RHP Michael Main are the best available. Bumgarner has a plus fastball that's been up to 97. His breaking pitches and offspeed pitches are a long ways off but he's only been throwing them for a year. His upside is enormous, but I think he's risky.

14. Atlanta Braves - Josh Smoker, LHP - Calhoun HS (Georgia)

If Heyward is gone, just take a look at the southeastern pitchers, throw a dart at the list and pick the one it lands on. That leaves LHP Madison Bumgarner, RHP Michael Main and LHP Josh Smoker. They've been linked a lot to Main lately, but Smoker knows how to change speeds and fits their mold better than anyone else. Smoker throws six pitches including a big bender a low 90s fastball and an outstanding split. His curve is a legit out pitch against lefties and his split is a legit out pitch against righties. His curve is a legit out pitch against righties as well. He possesses above average command of all of his pitches and projects as a No 2 starter.

15. Cincinnati Reds - Kevin Ahrens, 3B - Memorial HS (Texas)

This one appears to be easy. The Reds have been linked to Ahrens for awhile now. Ahrens is a switch hitter with decent power and will be a fine defensive third basemen. His power is a bit of projection at this point, but the raw power is there from both sides.

16. Toronto Blue Jays - Matt Dominguez, 3B - Chatsworth HS (California)

The Jays want a C or a 3B with this pick. Mesoraco is an option and so is LHP Brett Cecil because JP likes to move closers into starters and he has a deep repertoire. Yes, this is the fourth high school 3B to go in the draft, and the second one from Chatsworth HS. Dominguez has plus plus raw power and is a plus plus defender. His raw hitting ability needs work but he's got lofty potential.

17. Texas Rangers - Julio Borbon, CF - Tennessee

This is a tough decision because they won't be afraid to take a Boras faller, ie Wieters, Harvey, RHP Andrew Brackman and 1B Matt LaPorta. They are looking at pitchers and athletic centerfielders as well. That opens up RHP/CF Michael Main and CF Julio Borbon, a Boras Boy. Borbon projects as a leadoff hitter with surprising power and a terrible arm. He has plus speed and covers a lot of ground.

18. St. Louis Cardinals - Matt Wieters, C - Georgia Tech

The Cardinals reportedly want to make a splash with this pick and are willing to open up the checkbook. Wieters is a good pick for them. He's a perfect fit for the organization despite Yadier Molina and Bryan Anderson. Wieters has above average to plus tools across the board with the bat and a plus-plus arm. He could move to RF if needed, in my opinion. RHP Jake Arrieta and LHP Nick Schmidt are also options here.

19. Philadelphia Phillies - Michael Burgess, RF - Hillsburough HS (Florida)

They need bats and they wanted one last year. At this point they could take a flier on an elite high upside player like OF Michael Burgess or SS Justin Jackson. If C Devin Mesoraco is here, he would be the likely pick. OF Michael Main is also an option. Burgess is probably more of a early sandwich pick right now, but the Phils would reach on him. He has a plus arm and profiles as a prototypical RFer. He has plus-plus raw power that is probably tops in the draft and could knock 40 HRs with his quick batspeed that has been compared to Gary Sheffield. The knock on him is his plate discipline and how he has struggled with advanced pitchers. RHP Nevin Griffith dominated him this year.

20. Los Angeles Dodgers - Michael Main, RHP/OF - Deland HS (Florida)

The Dodgers picking a HS pitcher, what a shocker! Main's ultra athletic and ultra talented fitting the Dodgers mold. He has a plus-plus arm that clocks in the upper 90s and sits 94-96 at times. He has a pretty good curve and above average change too. He's also a 6.5 60 runner and some teams like him better as a 5 tool center-fielder.

21. Toronto Blue Jays - JP Arencibia, C - Tennessee

Arencibia opened up the season as a potential top ten pick, got off to a slow start and had his stock rise late in the season back into the first round. His bat will carry him as an offensive minded catcher. He's average defensively but possesses plus power. The Jays could look at LHP Nick Schmidt, LHP Brett Cecil and a number of prep middle infielders such as SS Pete Kozma and SS Nick Noonan.

22. San Francisco Giants - Aaron Poreda, LHP - San Francisco

Who? Poreda jumped into draft boards after showing plus-plus velocity from the left side hitting 97 on the gun. His other pitches are a work in progress but he's a good cheaper pick for the Giants.

23. San Diego Padres - Nick Schmidt, LHP - Arkansas

The Padres always like to look at advanced college products and the best options left are Schmidt and local RHP James Simmons. Schmidt has done well lately and has come on. He's got three solid pitches and profiles as a safe bet to be a 3 or 4 starter.

24. Texas Rangers - Matt Harvey, RHP - Fitch HS (Connecticut)

The Rangers won't be scared off by Boras again and would take the best pitcher they can get this late, easily Matt Harvey. Harvey has a plus fastball and a plus curve. If he was an easier sign he'd be long gone by now. Any sliding HS pitchers would be worthy choices here.

25. Chicago White Sox - Will Middlebrooks, 3B/RHP - Elyau HS (Texas)

The White Sox want more high ceiling players at this point. The last of the elite pitchers went off the board before them so they have to look at second-tier guys. So now we have a fifth prep third baseman drafted in the first. Middlebrooks has potential on the mound but has comparisons to Ripken and Rolen because of his size and athleticism package. He offers plus power potential as well. He's a bit of a reach here but has a lot of potential.

26. Oakland Athletics - Tim Alderson, RHP - Horizon HS (Arizona)

The Moneyball phenomenon makes it seem as if they don't draft pitchers from high school but they do. Alderson is very advanced and has plus command of his pitches. He's big and has a decent fastball but he's probably a future closer. 1B Sean Doolittle and a boatload of advanced college players are options here.

27. Detroit Tigers - Matt LaPorta, 1B - Florida

They want the best player available regardless of cost. That leaves them with RHP Andrew Brackman and 1B Matt LaPorta. LaPorta came back for his senior season and erased all doubts with a great season. He has plus power and even showed the makings of an average defensive 1B.

28. Minnesota Twins - Peter Kozma, SS - Owasso HS (Oklahoma)

The Twins want a high upside prepster, as always. Kozma is a SS who has average to above average tools across the board and should stick at short.

29. San Francisco Giants - Chris Carpenter, RHP - Kent State

Carpenter had TJ in May 2005 and has returned better than ever and with an excellent work habit. He's shown plus velocity and a plus curve. Wow, a college RHP starter!

30. New York Yankees - Kyle Russell, OF - Texas

If LaPorta or someone else slides they could snapped up here. This doesn't happen, so they can take an expensive high upside OF. Russell has tremendous power and re-wrote the Longhorn record book this year. Still his bat is questioned and he's a draft eligible sophomore. They could also look to high upside HS guys as well.

Supplemental Round

31. Washington Nationals - Drew Cumberland, SS - Pace HS (Florida)
32. San Francisco Giants - Brett Cecil, LHP - Maryland
33. Atlanta Braves - Wendell Fairley, OF - Lucedale HS (Mississippi)
34. Cincinnati Reds - James Simmons, RHP - UC Riverside
35. Texas Rangers - Chris Withrow, RHP - Midland Christian HS (Texas)
36. St Louis Cardinals - Nick Tepesch, RHP - Blue Springs HS (Missouri)
37. Philadelphia Phillies - Jack McGeeary, LHP/1B - Roxbury Latin HS (Massachussets)
38. Toronto Blue Jays - Cole St. Clair, LHP - Rice
39. Los Angeles Dodgers - Nevin Griffith, RHP - Middleton HS (Florida)
40. San Diego Padres - Nick Noonan, 2B - Parker HS (San Diego)
41. Oakland Athletics - Sean Doolittle, 1B - Virginia
42. New York Mets - Joe Savery, LHP - Rice
43. San Francisco Giants - Mitch Canham, C - Oregon State
44. Texas Rangers - Brad Suttle, 3B - Texas
45. Toronto Blue Jays - Josh Horton, SS - North Carolina
46. San Diego Padres - Jake Arrieta, RHP - Texas Christian
47. New York Mets - Nick Hagadone, LHP - Washington
48. Chicago Cubs - Justin Jackson, SS - Roberson HS (North Carolina)
49. Washington Nationals - Yasmani Grandal, C - Miami Springs HS (Florida)
50. Arizona Diamondbacks - Kyle Blair, RHP - Los Gatos HS (California)
51. San Francisco Giants - Kyle Lotzkar, RHP - South Delta SS (British Columbia)
52. Seattle Mariners - Andrew Brackman, RHP - North Carolina State
53. Cincinnati Reds - Neil Ramirez, RHP - Kempsville HS (Virginia)
54. Texas Rangers - Josh Fields, RHP - Georgia
55. Boston Red Sox - Todd Frazier, 3B - Rutgers
56. Toronto Blue Jays - Sam Demel, RHP - Texas Christian
57. San Diego Padres - Corey Brown, OF - Oklahoma State
58. Los Angeles Angels - Casey Crosby, LHP - Kaneland HS (Illinois)
59. Oakland Athletics - Wes Roemer, RHP - Cal-State Fullerton
60. Detroit Tigers - Ryan Dent, Wilson HS (California)
61. Arizona Diamondbacks - Josh Donaldson, C - Auburn
62. Boston Red Sox - Danny Payne, OF - Georgia Tech
63. San Diego Padres - Zack Cozart, SS - Mississippi
64. San Diego Padres - Gary Brown, OF - Diamond Bar HS (California)

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Mephistopheles wrote:you can all hate on this
That was informative, thanks. Good job.

I hope Jackson doesn't fall past the Birds at #36, that kinda seems like a no-brainer with the current state of the system if he's there. Are there signability issues there?

I love the idea of getting Weiters. Keith Law thinks he'll be there as well.

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Kevin Goldstein wrote:Top 50 Draft Prospects

The following rankings are based on discussions with scouts, scouting directors, other team personnel, and agents. They are based purely on projectable pro talent, with no consideration given to actual draft status, which often involves signability and/or perceived bonus demands.

1. David Price, LHP, Vanderbilt
Pros: Nearly perfect power-pitcher’s frame; excellent mechanics; plus-to-plus-plus velocity; outstanding slider; solid change; cerebral, calm and soft spoken off the mound, aggressive on it.
Cons: Lists “Coming To America” as his favorite film; on a baseball level, anything is nitpicking.

2. Rick Porcello, RHP, Seton Hall Prep (NJ)
Pros: Big, projectable frame, touches 98 and sits in mid-90s; excellent arm action in terms of both speed and smoothness; mature changeup for age; excellent athlete who fields position very well.
Cons: Breaking ball flashes as plus at times, but can flatten out at others. the short season in the Northeast leaves unanswered questions about durability.

3. Josh Vitters, 3B, Cypress HS (CA)
Pros: Best hitter in the draft in terms of bat speed and hand-eye coordination--then adds plus raw power on top of it; shows no weakness in terms of pitch type or location.
Cons: Not a defensive stalwart, but most think he can at least stay at the position.

4. Matt Wieters, C, Georgia Tech
Pros: Big switch-hitting catcher with plus power from both sides; professional approach at the plate; outstanding arm strength.
Cons: Performance this year has simply been good, not lights-out as some expected; most scouting directors think he can stay at catcher, but not all do; play seems lackadaisical at times.

5. Ross Detwiler, LHP, Missouri State
Pros: Good velocity, good curveball, and good change give him three plus pitches; one of the more consistent performers among top college arms; hasn’t let bad defense or a bad bullpen get to him.
Cons: Very skinny frame creates some stamina questions, though he’s been fine from start to start on six days' rest.

6. Mike Moustakas, SS, Chatsworth HS (CA)
Pros: Set the California high school record for career home runs thanks to great bat speed and strong wrists; a very good athlete with plus-plus arm strength who touched 97 mph as the team’s closer.
Cons: Despite athleticism, doesn’t have a well-defined defensive home; smallish frame leaves some question as to how well his power projects in the pros.

7. Jarrod Parker, RHP, Norwell HS (IN)
Pros: Fast-rising pitcher has sat at 92-95 mph all year long while touching 99 at times; slider features two-plane break and very good velocity; easy, fast, clean arm action.
Cons: A little undersized at just six feet tall; his fastball lacks movement.

8. Jason Heyward, OF, Henry County HS (GA)
Pros: Best athlete in the draft with plus power, plus speed, and a muscular six-foot-five frame; good outfielder with a right field-caliber arm.
Cons: A raw talent who hasn’t played much against top competition; high-reward/high risk talent who has equal chances of stardom or pure bust.

9. Beau Mills, 3B, Lewis-Clark State
Pros: Monstrous season at NAIA powerhouse; plus power to all fields, with one scout comparing him to Mike Piazza for his ability to drive balls the other way; also should hit for high average; son of Red Sox coach Brad Mills, and grew up around the game.
Cons: His aggressive hitting style worked in Idaho, but he might be prone to chasing pitches against better pitching; a bad defender who will likely require an immediate move to first base.

10. Daniel Moskos, LHP, Clemson
Pros: The former closer excelled in starting role with mid-90s fastball, explosive slider and surprisingly solid changeup; very aggressive style; big-bodied.
Cons: Still learning to pace himself as starter; his command comes and goes on some days; borders on confrontational at times; fastball can occasionally be flat.

11. Phillippe Aumount, RHP, Ecole Du Versant HS (QUE)
Pros: Tall Canadian fires mid-90s fastball and pretty good slider; well-proportioned and repeats his delivery well for an inexperienced pitcher with his size.
Cons: Scouts have gotten few chances to see him, as he has no high school team (he comes to the U.S. to pitch in showcase-style events); violent mechanics leave some questioning his ability to throw 75-100 pitches every five days.

12. Blake Beavan, RHP, Irving HS (TX)
Pros: A top Texas arm built like a power forward, his heat sits in the 93-95 mph range and touches 98; maintains velocity deep into games and is a strike-throwing machine.
Cons: Currently a one-pitch pitcher with a below-average slider and little feel for changing speeds; his mechanics create concern because of throwing across his body; attitude has turned off some, with confidence bordering on arrogance at times.

13. Matt Harvey, RHP, Fitch HS (CT)
Pros: Classic frame, mid-90s fastball, and a curve that rates among the best in the high school class; very good changeup for teenager.
Cons: Has not lived up to expectations this year, with fluctuating velocities and control issues.

14. Matt Dominguez, 3B, Chatsworth HS (CA)
Pros: Three big league tools right now with glove, arm, and power; true Gold Glove potential at the hot corner.
Cons: An average runner now who could lose a step as his body fills out; his ability to hit for average has been questioned by some.

15. Matt LaPorta, 1B, Florida
Pros: Arguably the best pure hitter in the college class, batting .402/.582/.817 with more home runs (20) in 169 at-bats than strikeouts (16); excellent approach at the plate: hits anything, anywhere.
Cons: Limited to first base defensively; slow, but not a total base-clogger.

16. Devin Mesoraco, C, Punxsutawney HS (PA)
Pros: Very athletic catcher with good agility behind the plate and excellent throwing arm; his stock has risen quickly of late thanks to highly impressive private workouts with wood bats.
Cons: His power is still more potential than reality; he has an injury history (Tommy John surgery).

17. Kevin Ahrens, SS, Memorial HS (TX)
Pros: Top high school position player in Texas; switch-hitter with plus power and very good arm; a high-energy player.
Cons: Will require immediate move to third base, but projects well there.

18. Michael Main, RHP, DeLand HS (FL)
Pros: Outstanding athlete who has 2nd-3rd round talent as a center fielder; excellent command of low 90s fastball that touches 95, and backs it up with a solid curve.
Cons: Little feel for changeup; struggled down the stretch both on the mound and at the plate.

19. Madison Bumgarner, LHP, South Caldwell HS (NC)
Pros: Top prep lefty has gotten into the mid-90s this spring; at 6-foot-5, his well-built frame creates no concerns about stamina. Excellent athlete.
Cons: Three-quarters arm slot prevent him from taking advantage of height; breaking ball is sweepy and slurvy.

20. Joe Savery, LHP, Rice
Pros: Arguably the top athlete among pitchers; has come on strong of late, touching 96 mph in last start; curve is solid, changeup is among the best in the college class.
Cons: Got off to a slow start while recovering from minor labrum surgery, often sitting in the upper-80s early in the season; has not been consistently good enough times out to rank in the top 10, as he did at the start of the year.

21. Corey Brown, OF, Oklahoma State
Pros: Toolsy outfielder already is having a 20-20 season in just 60 games; power lefty bat, plus speed, and a solid arm.
Cons: A future TTO all-star with 21 home runs, 62 walks. and 64 strikeouts in 218 at-bats; hard to see him hitting well for average in the big leagues.

22. Josh Smoker, LHP, Calhoun HS (GA)
Pros: Classic advanced prep pitcher from the East Cobb program who is already in possession of four pitches, all of which he commands well; his fastball sits in the average range and touches 93; his curveball is best pitch, but he also has a splitter and changeup.
Cons: Lacks the projection of other first-round high school arms.

23. Casey Weathers, RHP, Vanderbilt
Pros: Top college closer in draft can dominate in short spurts with classic fastball/slider combination; has touched triple-digits on occasion and slider is just as effective with late, heavy break.
Cons: Has only been pitching for three years; lacks polish, clean mechanics, and plus command.

24. Aaron Poreda, LHP, San Francisco
Pros: High-ceiling southpaw has size (6-foot-6) and velocity (mid-90s) to match Price's; excellent command.
Cons: Doesn’t miss many bats despite power stuff; the fastball is only plus pitch at this time.

25. Julio Borbon, OF, Tennessee
Pros: Top college leadoff hitter is plus-plus runner with line-drive bat; plus range in center field.
Cons: Hampered by an ankle injury much of the year; not an instinctual basestealer; limited power ceiling; weak arm.

26. Nick Schmidt, LHP, Arkansas
Pros: Finesse lefty in a power pitcher’s body; mixes in average fastball, average curve and average changeup at any point in the count to keep hitters off balance.
Cons: Scouts don’t see a put-away pitch in his repertoire; lacks the control generally associated with a pitcher of his type.

27. Tim Alderson, RHP, Horizon HS (AZ)
Pros: A six-foot-seven teenager who can touch 96 with excellent command, and his slider shows promise.
Cons: His violent mechanics turn some off; he would get into ruts at times and become hittable.

28. Kyle Russell, OF, Texas
Pros: Top of the scale power rates a pure 80 on 20-80 scouting scale; he set a new Texas home run mark with 28 in 223 at-bats, eclipsing the previous mark of 20; power isn’t his only tool--also a decent runner with a solid arm.
Cons: Prone to strikeouts in bunches, as his swing is not one with natural loft, with more of a pure loopy uppercut; some scouts point to several home runs that were a product of aluminum bats.

29. Kyle Blair, RHP, Los Gatos HS (CA)
Pros: Highly advanced for a teenager; excellent command of average or slightly above-average fastball and plus curve; good feel for changing speeds and setting up hitters; excellent overall command.
Cons: Lacks that one dominant offering to really blow scouts (and hitters) away.

30. Andrew Brackman, RHP, North Carolina State
Pros: The six-foot-11 righthander has touched 99 mph in the past, and arguably has a higher ceiling than any player in the draft; curveball flashes as plus at times; mechanics are surprisingly refined for a player with his size and lack of experience.
Cons: Rarely pitched as freshman or sophomore because of a basketball commitment, then was practically shut down after 78 innings due to a tired arm; before the shutdown, he became less and less effective as season wore on.

31. Nick Noonan, SS, Francis Parker HS (CA)
Pros: Middle infielder with plus power and speed; has the kind of bat speed that allows him to make contact deep in the zone and drive pitches; good athleticism.
Cons: Lacks the instincts and first-step quickness to be a big league shortstop.

32. Jack McGeary, LHP, Roxbury Latin HS (MA)
Pros: Highly advanced prep lefty; 88-90 mph fastball play up because of movement and command; curveball features strong break; excellent feel for changeup; excellent makeup.
Cons: Below-average velocity; uneven senior year--looking like a surefire first-round pick one day, and a player who needs three years of college the next.

33. Justin Jackson, SS, T.C. Roberson HS (NC)
Pros: Tall, rangy athletic shortstop who, unlike many other high school middle infielders, has the tools and skills to not only stay at the position, but excel there defensively; plus runner with excellent instincts; big league bloodlines, as his father played briefly in the majors.
Cons: Power ceiling is limited; very lanky--needs to add some bulk to his frame just to handle the rigors of a full season; hitting skills draw mixed reviews.

34. James Simmons, RHP, UC Riverside
Pros: Top control pitcher in this year's college class, with 116 strikeouts and just 15 walks in 123.2 innings; excellent command of fastball, curve, and change; a pitchability guy who understands his craft well.
Cons: His stuff is marginal at best and leaves no margin for error.

35. Mitch Canham, C, Oregon State
Pros: Offensive-minded catcher has excellent contact skills and a good approach; plus arm; athletic and agile behind the plate.
Cons: Fairly new to catching, so he has understandably raw receiving skills; his power is a potential subject of debate.

36. Todd Frazier, SS, Rutgers
Pros: Another 20-20 performer with 22 blasts and 25 swipes in 61 games; fundamentally sound defender; grinder mentality.
Cons: Lacks the athleticism to play shortstop at the next level, profiling as more of a third baseman or corner outfielder; swing has many moving parts, leading to an above-average strikeout rate.

37. Peter Kozma, SS, Owasso HS (OK)
Pros: Line-drive bat with excellent feel for contact; plus-plus defender with smooth shortstop actions and a strong, accurate arm.
Cons: On the smallish side, and not the kind of body that will fill out much; an average runner.

38. Casey Crosby, LHP, Kaneland HS (IL)
Pros: Tall, lanky lefty can touch 94 mph; high-energy pitcher who works quickly and aggressively.
Cons: Despite being a good athlete, he’s a little gawky and uncoordinated on the mound; all of his secondary stuff lags behind.

39. Nick Hagadone, LHP, Washington
Pros: Big lefty closer can touch 95 mph with his fastball, and his slider rates as plus. Throws not only strikes with both pitches, but well-located strikes.
Cons: Future role as starter or closer is undefined; lacks big league closer velocity.

40. Neil Ramirez, RHP, Kempsville HS (VA)
Pros: Athletic, projectable righty has two plus pitches with low-90s fastball that touches 96, as well as a hard-downer of a curve.
Cons: Inconsistent performances all season; short-arms the ball.

41. Brett Cecil, LHP, Maryland
Pros: Electric fastball/slider combination, using low-90s heater to set up the breaking ball, which rates as a better pitch.
Cons: Has struggled in second half of the season, especially with command.

42. Brad Suttle, 3B, Texas
Pros: Solid hitter with average power and a patient approach; very good defender with soft hands and an excellent arm.
Cons: Lacks a plus offensive tool, more of a solid across-the-board player than one who wows anyone.

43. Josh Donaldson, C, Auburn
Pros: Patient hitter with some pop; excellent athlete for a catcher.
Cons: Fairly new to the position, still seems uncomfortable at times behind the plate; arm is below average.

44. Chris Carpenter, RHP, Kent State
Pros: Tommy John survivor has velocity to match nearly anyone in the draft, sitting at 93-95 mph and touching 97 on several occasions; good athlete; good makeup.
Cons: Already has had two elbow surgeries and was slowed early this year with an elbow strain; control can completely abandon him at times.

45. J.P. Arenciba, C, Tennessee
Pros: Another catcher with run-producing skills, including excellent pitch recognition and plus power potential; gets excellent grades for makeup and leadership abilities.
Cons: Hampered by a back injury all season, and never got going at the plate; below-average defender who has problems controlling the running game.

46. Yasmani Grandal, C, Miami Springs HS (FL)
Pros: Top defensive catcher in the draft, combining athleticism with durability and a plus arm; switch-hitter with some pop.
Cons: His swing has some holes in it; he projects as more of a #6 hitter as opposed to any kind of offensive star.

47. Chris Withrow, RHP, Midland Christian HS (TX)
Pros: Projectable righty with low-90s fastball to go with an already advanced curve and changeup; excellent makeup; son of former pro pitcher.
Cons: More of a player with no glaring weaknesses as opposed to one with impressive strengths.

48. Michael Burgess, OF, Hillsborough HS (FL)
Pros: Raw power ranks with anyone in the draft--puts on an absolute show in batting practice; decent outfielder with plus-plus arm in right.
Cons: Raw in most aspects of hitting; needs to greatly improve pitch selection and close holes in his swing.

49. Kentrail Davis, OF, Theodore HS (AL)
Pros: Athletic sparkplug is a plus-plus runner with solid hitting skills and surprising power for his size; could develop into leadoff player or intriguing power/speed package.
Cons: Raw, both at the plate and in the field; over-aggressive and prone to chasing; needs to improve outfield work to stay in center field.

50. Danny Payne, OF, Georgia Tech
Pros: The fundamentally sound player was among Division I leaders in walks (62) and on-base percentage (.509); top tools are plus speed and a very good arm (he doubled as the team’s closer).
Cons: Undersized with no more than gap power.

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lol Goldstein thinks Beavans slider is below average and BA thinks his slider is the third best breaking pitch from the HS level.

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