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Jocephus wrote:i've read they've cast another spider-man. for what? didn't they have that one guy, who replaced that other guy?
Yea, but he bad mouthed Sony, and was a dick, so they got a new Peter Parker.

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I think the world would be better off without a new Spider, Super, or Bat movie for about 6 years. Well, perhaps only me. I might be interested in them by then. I'll go see any Guardians of the Galaxy sequel, and will probably go to the Deadpool movie if it's as entertaining as Ryan Reynolds says it will be. Other than that, I am pretty much done with the entirety of the Marvel Cinematic Profitverse, and have absolutely no interest in any DC property I hear about. Those Ant Man trailers look like an Onion parody to me.

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Famous Mortimer wrote:Apparently, "Spy" is fantastic, and the MM / Feig team is one of the few legit comedy box office draws at the moment. Plus, Kate McKinnon could and should be a way bigger star than Kristen Wiig (I predict she'll outshine Wiig in the movie) and while Jones has struggled on SNL, I'm confident in her ability to be decently funny in this.

I'm tired of stuff that worked in the past being dragged back out again, and going to see it just encourages dumbass movie studios to keep giving us more of the same, but...this has every chance of being decent.
Well, there's also Leslie Jones, who is the f-----g worst, and whose inexplicable ability to fail upward is matched only by Pete Kozma's ability to make it to the big leagues.

But overall, no reason to believe this movie won't at least be decent, I agree.
I did mention her a bit. She was so good the first few times she was on, a completely different comic energy to the rest of the cast, but she was catastrophically bad at reading from cue cards. There's no chance she leaves the show with this movie coming out, but by god she'd better get better at sketch comedy really quickly.

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Maclowery wrote:I think the world would be better off without a new Spider, Super, or Bat movie for about 6 years. Well, perhaps only me. I might be interested in them by then. I'll go see any Guardians of the Galaxy sequel, and will probably go to the Deadpool movie if it's as entertaining as Ryan Reynolds says it will be. Other than that, I am pretty much done with the entirety of the Marvel Cinematic Profitverse, and have absolutely no interest in any DC property I hear about. Those Ant Man trailers look like an Onion parody to me.
I just find myself bored with it all. Is it that I'm nearly 40 and I've seen all these things done over and over again since I was a kid? They're going to keep making Spider-Man movies whether we want them or not...same with the (relatively speaking) misfires that were the last Superman and Batman movies.

I was thinking about going to see "Jurassic World" the other day. I enjoyed "Jurassic Park" just fine (when I watched it for the first time a few weeks ago) but the idea of spending so much money to see something which is just empty spectacle makes me tired. It might be great, but I bet it'll just be "hey, we dabbled in God's domain, sorry all you dead people. Cool dinosaurs though".

The whole multiplex thing is just bad for movies. It's good for profits, but that's not the same thing - does anyone think three of the best 6 movies of all time have been released this year? Well, if you go by box office, that's what's happened. I think it would be better if I (and other people who felt the same way) voted with our wallets - maybe gave money to independent stuff, or something like that.

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No one is stopping you at any point in time from going to see more independent fare if thats your thing.

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JoeMcKim wrote:No one is stopping you at any point in time from going to see more independent fare if thats your thing.
I think some would like movie theaters to have more interesting and diverse options and maybe for the national movie conversation to be about something other than superhero movies. I'd say people aren't that happy with the state of independent movies either. Directors, writers and actors that might otherwise be doing the next Godfather or the next new anything for that matter are seduced into directing the next Marvel installment. It's more complicated than that because you have changing distribution models, TV dramas filling the void, etc...but I think that's the complaint for many.

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JoeMcKim wrote:No one is stopping you at any point in time from going to see more independent fare if thats your thing.
No-one's stopping you from eating elsewhere than McDonalds, or ignoring the Kardashians, or (pick your own example)...unless you've ever opened a newspaper, turned on a TV, read a magazine, watched any sporting contest or walked down pretty much any street. There's billions and billions spent convincing you to think about these things as your only options.

I think lots and lots of people are stopping you from going to see more independent fare. Even if you manage to ignore the absolutely constant stream of advertising, there's the massive reduction in the number of independent cinemas, the disappearance of places where you might happen upon the occasional indie film (video stores), the end of shows like "At The Movies", the gradual death of print media (where indie movies would occasionally get reviewed), and the deals made with streaming sites to prioritise the big studio fare over the more interesting stuff. There's also fewer indie movies getting into multiplexes, not that there were ever a lot in the first place, and festivals like Sundance which have been completely taken over by the majors. It's not just that there's fewer outlets for the same amount of quality independent cinema - their outlets have been removed to such an extent that not as much of it is being made, and good young filmmakers are as likely to be given a Star Wars spin-off than they are to be allowed to make something original.

If you think every problem with the state of modern cinema is ours, and the major studios are just giving us what we want, then I guess there's not a lot more to talk about. Are there millions of people I don't know about screaming for more remakes, more rehashes, more sequels and more lame versions of good old ideas?

Undoubtedly, some of the problem does come from us, and our ticket money. But the huge publicity machine (uncritical TV and print, hundreds of millions of dollars of advertising) contributes more, I think.

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Studios are risk-averse with huge budget movies and that's both annoying and understandable, but I was under the impression that internet sites and digital cameras have made indie movies easier to find and to make than ever before.

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Just because it is original doesn't make it good.
Just because it is a re-make or another installment doesn't make it bad - unless you are talking Transformers.
Go see what you like.

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"Jurassic World offers one-dimensional characters, misused actors, nonsensical motivations, retrograde gender politics, insipid pseudo-science and a whole lot of fun."

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