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StLBlitzerMM515 wrote:If I was Bradford and I saw Moss take a jog after a very catchable ball lands 3ft from on the turf next to him, I would grab his facemask and rip him a new one. If this were to happen, it think its obvious that Moss would throw a fit and it would be one big distraction that the Rams just do not need right now.
Pairing him with a rookie QB is a bit risky. Does the rookie have the sack to grab him by the facemask when he deserves it? When Moss ignores the rookie, does his credibility suffer?

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StLBlitzerMM515 wrote:If I was Bradford and I saw Moss take a jog after a very catchable ball lands 3ft from on the turf next to him, I would grab his facemask and rip him a new one. If this were to happen, it think its obvious that Moss would throw a fit and it would be one big distraction that the Rams just do not need right now.
Pairing him with a rookie QB is a bit risky. Does the rookie have the sack to grab him by the facemask when he deserves it? When Moss ignores the rookie, does his credibility suffer?
When's the last time you saw any QB grab a WR by the facemask, let alone a rookie and a HOFer? Not to mention Moss is basically the NFL's answer to Ron Artest. The Rams still need help at WR, but I think it's a smart move to pass on Moss. Hopefully they still plan to make another move or two to bring in some better wideouts.

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The Third Man wrote:The Rams are [expletive] stupid as hell, apparently.
Apparently so.

Pretty disappointed in the Rams right now. Clearly the Rams are going in the right direction, but the NFC west is wide open right now. Anything they could have done to improve the team (and in this case I believe possibly significantly) and go for a pretty good shot at winning the division, they should have done so, and just because they're improved this year doesn't mean they necessarily won't take a step back next year. When you get a chance to win, you should take it.

Even if Randy Moss doesn't catch a single ball he could have improved the offense, and the risk to "Team unity" or "club chemistry" or what have you was minimal. If issues come up, you get rid of him. I don't get it. I have to think the reason they didn't take him is because this offense just isn't really built to go downfield in a manner that Moss would allow. And if that's the case, I'm a little annoyed that Shurmur and company couldn't be flexible enough to find a way to make it work.

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Im not saying that Bradford would do that. Im not saying any QB would do that. But im just saying that if you let Moss run the show you could very possibly break up any chemistry they have already put together. Physically, Randy Moss would be amazing to have. Personality wise, Randy Moss could be a disaster.

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I spoke to Spagnuolo for a few minutes Wednesday, and while he did not wish to be quoted, I can tell you that he agonized over this. Spagnuolo deliberated over the Moss verdict for a couple of days, and many hours. The coach and other key members of the Rams organization performed due diligence by making calls, getting reports on Moss, finding out all that they could.

Earlier this week, Spagnuolo told me that he believed his locker room was strong enough to handle Moss. That includes the coaching staff. Spagnuolo believes the team's infrastructure could withstand the Moss temper, the pouting, the loafing on select plays. But still, the Rams decided to play their final eight games without Moss.

Spagnuolo insists that he is willing to take a chance on a risky player, a player with a shaky rep — but not this particular player. I don't know what Spagnuolo was told when he made his calls, as he did his homework. But the coach gathered enough information to make the no-Moss ruling.

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Was the character issue part of that consideration?

“It all goes into it,” Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo said earlier Wednesday. “We factor everything. We do that with every guy we talk about adding to the team.”

Said general manager Billy Devaney: "I cam't go into everything, I can say this: We spent the last three days . . . that's all we've been doing, researching this. We just came to the conclusion a couple of hours ago . . . this is the direction we're going to go in.

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Whatever their homework said, I've gotta imagine it was enough to say it wasn't worth it. The Rams are still a decent team. They'll probably finish 7-9 and I'm absolutely comfortable with that. I still would have taken the gamble, its a low-risk high-reward situation, but I can understand why they passed.

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What's the economic impact for an NFL team to get one home playoff game?

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JL21 wrote:What's the economic impact for an NFL team to get one home playoff game?
I imagine if nothing else it'd be enough for a team to break even on taking on the remainder of Moss' contract (about three million dollars).

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This is a case where at least I'm somewhat pleased to hear that it was close, one way or another and was actually considered.

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Cronos69 wrote:This is a case where at least I'm somewhat pleased to hear that it was close, one way or another and was actually considered.
Same here...I wanted Moss, but knowing that the coaching/staff just went through a huge purge over the last year to get rid of the headcases on the team, I can understand why they passed.

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TimeForGuinness wrote:
Cronos69 wrote:This is a case where at least I'm somewhat pleased to hear that it was close, one way or another and was actually considered.
Same here...I wanted Moss, but knowing that the coaching/staff just went through a huge purge over the last year to get rid of the headcases on the team, I can understand why they passed.
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