Holy [expletive] SLU

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Miss ole' is not very good.

[lukethedrifter]

Kwamain is back.

[cards2468]

Kwamain is back.

Hide yo kids. Hide yo wife.

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Willie Reed, too.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball ... louis-reed

[phins]

What a weird ride. If you're going to take action on a rape allegation, why even let them back in? (The student conduct stuff was [expletive])

If there's enough evidence they broke a student code, then they broke the student code an shouldn't be back. If there's not evidence to provide doubt, then don't take action at all.

Seems like the whole situation was butchered almost as badly as Miami's coaching search.

[lukethedrifter]

What a weird ride. If you're going to take action on a rape allegation, why even let them back in? (The student conduct stuff was [expletive])

If there's enough evidence they broke a student code, then they broke the student code an shouldn't be back. If there's not evidence to provide doubt, then don't take action at all.

Seems like the whole situation was butchered almost as badly as Miami's coaching search.

Are all violations of student code the death penalty? Actually, I'd argue that this was handled fairly well.
Incident happens in which it appears that girl was coerced but not (legally) raped. Prosecutor decides they have no legal case. University takes action because it has its own set of rules and student athletes are found in violation and are punished. Student athletes, who have the option of leaving to enroll elsewhere, eventually choose to comply with the university's requirements for reinstatement as a student. University reinstates student/athletes. The team reinstates them. Play ball.

[longhornbaseball]

(The student conduct stuff was [expletive])

I don't think it was. The police report made it pretty clear they didn't rape anyone but also clear they acted in a way that is embarrassing to the program and the school (lying to the police, planning to "run a train," etc...). A semester out of school sounds about right.

[longhornbaseball]

Are all violations of student code the death penalty? Actually, I'd argue that this was handled fairly well.
Incident happens in which it appears that girl was coerced but not (legally) raped. Prosecutor decides they have no legal case. University takes action because it has its own set of rules and student athletes are found in violation and are punished. Student athletes, who have the option of leaving to enroll elsewhere, eventually choose to comply with the university's requirements for reinstatement as a student. University reinstates student/athletes. The team reinstates them. Play ball.

This.

[phins]

(The student conduct stuff was [expletive])

I don't think it was. The police report made it pretty clear they didn't rape anyone but also clear they acted in a way that is embarrassing to the program and the school (lying to the police, planning to "run a train," etc...). A semester out of school sounds about right.

We read different police reports. Several people in the room, she says she said no. Mitchell lied about it initially and then changed his story.

What I read was they didn't have enough proof to convict them.

As an outsider, I thought it was handled poorly, but if SLU faithful are happy, all is well.

[longhornbaseball]

We read different police reports. Several people in the room, she says she said no. Mitchell lied about it initially and then changed his story.

What I read was they didn't have enough proof to convict them.

As an outsider, I thought it was handled poorly, but if SLU faithful are happy, all is well.

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyr ... php?page=2

Sounds like Mitchell and Smith had sex with her, individually and alone, in a bedroom. She says she said no, but admits that she also rolled a condom on each of them. That is consent IMO. When Justin Jordan asked her for oral sex she emphatically said no and then left, which proves that she was there of her own power and able to leave whenever she wanted. I don't think it was rape, just scumbaggery.