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Joe Shlabotnik wrote:
September 2 23, 8:05 am
Magneto2.0 wrote:
September 2 23, 4:47 am
I never heard of that. Has it happened in modern times?
Good question. I can't find an example of this being awarded in MLB of late.

The actual rule is a 3-base award for a fair batted ball contacted with 'detached player equipment or illegal glove'. So much more than just a hat. If a fielder throws their glove at a ball as it goes past and it touches it or if they catch it with a glove that is then deemed illegal it would be 3 bases as well.

It must have been an issue at some point or they wouldn't have bothered with a rule. Becoming an umpire was when I learned of it, and its still an oddity in the rules. Why 3 when all the others are 1 or 2? If I was king, this is one of the rules I'd make consistent with the other base awards as a way of simplifying an already complex rule book.
Another umpiring question related to the above:

Yesterday's youth game - runner on 1st. Catcher snap throws down to 1st to pick him off. Throw is wide of 1st (in fair territory). The... very rotund kid playing first decides he's not getting over to catch nor stop that throw so he chucks his glove at the ball. Does not contact the ball, though. Ball rolls into RF, where the right fielder fires wide of 2nd base and our runner then takes 3rd.

If the glove had made contact with the ball, would it have been a 3-base error? Remember: this was not a batted ball.

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mikechamp wrote:
September 14 23, 12:07 pm
Joe Shlabotnik wrote:
September 2 23, 8:05 am
Magneto2.0 wrote:
September 2 23, 4:47 am
I never heard of that. Has it happened in modern times?
Good question. I can't find an example of this being awarded in MLB of late.

The actual rule is a 3-base award for a fair batted ball contacted with 'detached player equipment or illegal glove'. So much more than just a hat. If a fielder throws their glove at a ball as it goes past and it touches it or if they catch it with a glove that is then deemed illegal it would be 3 bases as well.

It must have been an issue at some point or they wouldn't have bothered with a rule. Becoming an umpire was when I learned of it, and its still an oddity in the rules. Why 3 when all the others are 1 or 2? If I was king, this is one of the rules I'd make consistent with the other base awards as a way of simplifying an already complex rule book.
Another umpiring question related to the above:

Yesterday's youth game - runner on 1st. Catcher snap throws down to 1st to pick him off. Throw is wide of 1st (in fair territory). The... very rotund kid playing first decides he's not getting over to catch nor stop that throw so he chucks his glove at the ball. Does not contact the ball, though. Ball rolls into RF, where the right fielder fires wide of 2nd base and our runner then takes 3rd.

If the glove had made contact with the ball, would it have been a 3-base error? Remember: this was not a batted ball.
2 bases for detached equipment since it was a pitched and thrown ball.

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Is there a site that graphs WAR or similar stats over the course of a season?

I'm asking because I'd like to gauge the progress of a player such as Jordan Walker because, as much as he still needs to improve, he has clearly progressed since April. I'd be interested in seeing a graphic representation of that change over the last few months.

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I don't know how to get our website to post the link as it scrubs out the inputs from Fangraphs

You can just click on Player Graphs, add by Game, and add War.
The default on by Game is using WOBA.

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a_smith wrote:
September 18 23, 11:26 am
I don't know how to get our website to post the link as it scrubs out the inputs from Fangraphs

You can just click on Player Graphs, add by Game, and add War.
The default on by Game is using WOBA.
I was looking at this recently trying to figure out how to get some splits for defense for Walker and WAR is basically the same graph as wOBA. Best bet might be to find someone posting his UZR or DRS from June and comparing it to now. Not that defensive stats are necessarily great in an even smaller sample size. He certainly looks closer to average or -5 as opposed to unplayable lately.

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Just ran across this
Albert Pujols senior year in HS he had 8 HR in 33 AB with 55 IBB.

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Spider John wrote:
September 19 23, 12:32 pm
Just ran across this
Albert Pujols senior year in HS he had 8 HR in 33 AB with 55 IBB.
Homie was already 22 years old at that point

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He had a great year last year for 47 year old.

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Giants just fired Gabe Kapler

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