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There is just no way Crompton is the second best QB prospect in this draft...he was awful with Tennessee. However, he was a top recruit, and is big with a strong arm.

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Crompton is absolutely horrible. I've only seen him twice (when tuning in to watch Eric Berry) and he was all sorts of bad. And it's not like he was lacking talent around him at Tennessee.

The only specifics I can remember is that he has no internal clock (took some horrible sacks), threw into double and triple coverages and lacked accuracy on intermediate passes. IIRC he was playing Florida so him struggling isn't that surprising. He's a statue in the pocket. Obviously he has prototypical size.

Big arms are a dime a dozen. Gather 100 guys off the street and one or two will have a cannon and be decently sized.

He should go undrafted but a team will take him as a PS QB at the end of day 3.

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Lebanon wrote:Crompton is absolutely horrible. I've only seen him twice (when tuning in to watch Eric Berry) and he was all sorts of bad. And it's not like he was lacking talent around him at Tennessee.

The only specifics I can remember is that he has no internal clock (took some horrible sacks), threw into double and triple coverages and lacked accuracy on intermediate passes. IIRC he was playing Florida so him struggling isn't that surprising. He's a statue in the pocket. Obviously he has prototypical size.

Big arms are a dime a dozen. Gather 100 guys off the street and one or two will have a cannon and be decently sized.

He should go undrafted but a team will take him as a PS QB at the end of day 3.
He'll go around round 3-4 most likely just based on potential, but I agree he was flat out awful in the Florida game. It was like the coaches were afraid to throw the ball for fear of him doing something stupid.

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phinstd wrote:
Lebanon wrote:Crompton is absolutely horrible. I've only seen him twice (when tuning in to watch Eric Berry) and he was all sorts of bad. And it's not like he was lacking talent around him at Tennessee.

The only specifics I can remember is that he has no internal clock (took some horrible sacks), threw into double and triple coverages and lacked accuracy on intermediate passes. IIRC he was playing Florida so him struggling isn't that surprising. He's a statue in the pocket. Obviously he has prototypical size.

Big arms are a dime a dozen. Gather 100 guys off the street and one or two will have a cannon and be decently sized.

He should go undrafted but a team will take him as a PS QB at the end of day 3.
He'll go around round 3-4 most likely just based on potential, but I agree he was flat out awful in the Florida game. It was like the coaches were afraid to throw the ball for fear of him doing something stupid.
You're probably right about him going in the 3rd or 4th. They'll see the arm and the measurables, look at the OK production and think they have Flacco 2.0 but at a bargain price.

Maybe Fulmer/Kiffin didn't tap into his potential but I doubt it. He looked lost.

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Lebanon wrote: at the end of day 3.
Going to 3 days this year?

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lukethedrifter wrote:
Lebanon wrote: at the end of day 3.
Going to 3 days this year?
Yes sir. I'm not a fan of it, I could barely stand two days of it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4351601
ESPN and the NFL Network will televise the entire show.

The first round will start in prime time at 7:30 p.m. ET.

The second and third rounds will start at 6:30 p.m. ET on April 23.

Rounds 4 through 7 will be on April 24, starting at 10 a.m. ET.
I wonder why...
A total of 39 million viewers watched the draft this year.
This is idiotic.

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Regarding Crompton, lots of pretty bad college QB's get taken earlier than expected. Anyone who watched the Big XII a couple years ago could tell you Josh Freeman and Stephen McGee were pretty awful college QB's, yet were taken much than they should've based on their college resumes. I don't pay a ton of attention to the later round coverage prior to the draft (outside of seeing potentially where some Mizzou guys will land), but I wouldn't have thought McGee would've been drafted last year at all based on what he did at A&M. Of course, I'm not anywhere close to a great scout of potential either.

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phinstd wrote:
Lebanon wrote:Crompton is absolutely horrible. I've only seen him twice (when tuning in to watch Eric Berry) and he was all sorts of bad. And it's not like he was lacking talent around him at Tennessee.

The only specifics I can remember is that he has no internal clock (took some horrible sacks), threw into double and triple coverages and lacked accuracy on intermediate passes. IIRC he was playing Florida so him struggling isn't that surprising. He's a statue in the pocket. Obviously he has prototypical size.

Big arms are a dime a dozen. Gather 100 guys off the street and one or two will have a cannon and be decently sized.

He should go undrafted but a team will take him as a PS QB at the end of day 3.
He'll go around round 3-4 most likely just based on potential, but I agree he was flat out awful in the Florida game. It was like the coaches were afraid to throw the ball for fear of him doing something stupid.
If an NFL team wants a QB with a cannon and size, the best bet is Ryan Mallet from Arkansas. Yeah, he's not coming out in the draft this year, but if you're taking a guy in rounds 3-4 are you really penciling him in as the starting QB. They can afford to wait a year.

The only downside is Mallet could polish up nicely this offseason and if all goes swimmingly (which is doubtful) be included in Heisman talk AND be a prototypical NFL QB meaning a team would need a very early pick to nab him.

He had some horrible games this season, the bowl being one of them. But, he caught a lot of attention this year because he has an absolute cannon and had some downright ridiculous throws.

\Arkansas love

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I'd have Arkansas love as well if I were you. He and Locker could go 1-2 next year if the right teams are are at the top.

Mallet is a stud physically, and improved a lot under Petrino last year.

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I thought that Mallett was the white Jamarcus Russell for the longest time. I'm warming up to him now after ripping some top tier D's up. I still prefer Locker at the moment but that (as always) is open to change with another season of college football left to play.


An aside

Locker is an athlete more than a quarterback but that is changing. His 4.4 speed is legitimate game speed. He beats safeties to the edge more often than not. Washington was going to let him start at safety after he hurt his thumb but decided not to. Willingham said he was capable of starting at 6 positions WITH a torn up thumb and 8 with a healthy thumb. Crazy stuff.

Mallett is one of those freak QB prospects that is almost a caricature of the prototypical QB prospect. At a lankey 6'7 250, the football looks like a nerf toy in his hand. He is built like a bird, akin to Chris Simms through the torso (and that didn't work out too well). The future doesn't bode well for his body if he is behind a terrible offensive line (which is possible, considering his top 10 status).

Unfortunately, Mallett suffers from the same problems that plague most other monster sized QBs. Inconsistent accuracy, no pocket mobility and legs that will have dirty defenders salivating.

Not sure if it would register as a "character concern" but he is supposedly the most arrogant/cocky [expletive] that most coaches have ever met at the division 1 level, which says a lot. Jamarcus is lazy, maybe Ryan just won't listen to coaches, we will see.

Mechanically, there is improvement to be made but he has tightened up his release at Arkansas (damn Michigan coaches). Like 90% of all college QBs, he doesn't make NFL reads and telegraphs his throws horribly.

His deep ball is superb and effortless. He struggles with touch which leads to the ball sailing over the receiver's head.

The mobility isn't a huge issue but you'd like to see him avoid as many shots as possible with that lean body of his.

Like Suh and McCoy, it is a matter of preference at this point. They are 1a. and 1b. I prefer Locker. Dude is baller as hell, throws a beautiful ball, can move and doesn't appear to be quite the injury risk. He reminds me of a younger McNabb with less zip on his fastball and a bit quicker on the run.

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