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Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread

Posted: January 13 18, 4:23 pm
by MrCrowesGarden
Pham, Ozuna, Fowler, Martinez, Grichuk, Bader and O’Neill. I know Matheny didn’t say this but there’s no reason Voit should play an inning in the outfield.

Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread

Posted: January 13 18, 4:25 pm
by Socnorb11
MrCrowesGarden wrote: Pham, Ozuna, Fowler, Martinez, Grichuk, Bader and O’Neill. I know Matheny didn’t say this but there’s no reason Voit should play an inning in the outfield.

Haha......... which means he'll probably get significant innings in the outfield, before being traded to the Braves mid-season. :D

Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread

Posted: January 13 18, 4:25 pm
by Fat Strat
Magneto2.0 wrote:
With the almost certain regression from Ozuna and DeJong and the likely decline from Lynn to Mikolas, I dont think that there is a guarantee that we are actually better than last year. We probably should be, but we have a more tenuous situation in the rotation and bullpen than any point in recent memory.

When's the last time we entered a season without a closer? Or with arms as many question marks in our starters as we have with Weaver, Mikolas, and Wainwright?

Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread

Posted: January 13 18, 4:28 pm
by Socnorb11
Fat Strat wrote:
Magneto2.0 wrote:
With the almost certain regression from Ozuna and DeJong and the likely decline from Lynn to Mikolas, I dont think that there is a guarantee that we are actually better than last year. We probably should be, but we have a more tenuous situation in the rotation and bullpen than any point in recent memory.

When's the last time we entered a season without a closer? Or with arms as many question marks in our starters as we have with Weaver, Mikolas, and Wainwright?

If you really think the team has that many question marks, then why is it so significant that they didn't sign Reed? If the team is that bad, then another relief pitcher isn't going to make or break them.

Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread

Posted: January 13 18, 4:31 pm
by MrCrowesGarden
Because half the NL is still garbage and you can fluke your way to the playoffs.

Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread

Posted: January 13 18, 5:23 pm
by MrCrowesGarden

Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread

Posted: January 13 18, 5:26 pm
by Magneto2.0
I think we’re at the point where Ownership realizes the difference between fielding a good team and a great team isn’t worth the cost. The Cardinals being an 88 win team vs a 95 win team isn’t worth the cost of adding additional salary, so they’ll just do like Fat Strat said and continue to be a contender but not looking to be much more than that for the foreseeable future.

Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread

Posted: January 13 18, 5:34 pm
by MrCrowesGarden
Magneto2.0 wrote:I think we’re at the point where Ownership realizes the difference between fielding a good team and a great team isn’t worth the cost. The Cardinals being an 88 win team vs a 95 win team isn’t worth the cost of adding additional salary, so they’ll just do like Fat Strat said and continue to be a contender but not looking to be much more than that for the foreseeable future.

It’s not worth the cost to them. It’s disappointing to me. The only thing I can do is not buy tickets.

Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread

Posted: January 13 18, 5:38 pm
by CardsofSTL
MrCrowesGarden wrote: Pham, Ozuna, Fowler, Martinez, Grichuk, Bader and O’Neill. I know Matheny didn’t say this but there’s no reason Voit should play an inning in the outfield.
The bat plays

Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread

Posted: January 13 18, 5:39 pm
by dmarx114
Pudgelewis wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:I think the Cubs are significantly better than the Cards. That's why I think making marginal moves like adding Addison Reed aren't much to get worked up about. Do the best you can in 2018, and then go all-in for 2019, when the pieces should line up more to our liking.
I don't think the term "all-in" is in this front office's vocabulary.
It's not, and it shouldn't be.