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I'm on episode 2 of "The Get Down" on Netflix. Quite enjoy it.

60 Days In on A&E. Incredible look at inside jail. They take innocent people and put them in the clink for sixty days. First season is on demand if so inclined. Second season just started

stlouie_lipp wrote:

33anda3rd wrote:I feel like The Night Of is going to end next week w/ Nas getting off, the real murderer being found, and then the point is going to be that once you've been through the meat grinder of the justice system you're not the same. If so, I wish they'd freed him in last night's episode, put the dead girl's dead mom's skeevy ex in jail, and then spent the last episode showing us Nas on the outside.

I kind of think he may get killed in prison. Or get off and end up committing a violent crime and going back in. With the same point of not being the same once you are in the system.

I'm looking forward to the finale though. I just hope it's not a big let down where he gets off, returns home, and everything is rainbows and unicorns (shout out to our new mod).

I didn't care an awful lot for the show, outside the performances, especially Turturro. The whole jail storyline didn't make a lot of sense to me or at least didn't work all that well. Omar wants to help this kid with his clothes and whatnot, but then gets him hooked on hard drugs and has 'SIN' and 'BAD' tattooed to him? He takes him on because he wants intelligent conversation, and I recall zero of those. They didn't set Nas' transformation up nearly well enough for me. Wouldn't have minded a little closure for Bizarrio Dawson, either.

I give it two and a half mehs and wish I hadn't bothered. Just a smash cut of Turuturro would have been enough for me.

MrSaigon wrote:

stlouie_lipp wrote:

33anda3rd wrote:I feel like The Night Of is going to end next week w/ Nas getting off, the real murderer being found, and then the point is going to be that once you've been through the meat grinder of the justice system you're not the same. If so, I wish they'd freed him in last night's episode, put the dead girl's dead mom's skeevy ex in jail, and then spent the last episode showing us Nas on the outside.

I kind of think he may get killed in prison. Or get off and end up committing a violent crime and going back in. With the same point of not being the same once you are in the system.

I'm looking forward to the finale though. I just hope it's not a big let down where he gets off, returns home, and everything is rainbows and unicorns (shout out to our new mod).

I didn't care an awful lot for the show, outside the performances, especially Turturro. The whole jail storyline didn't make a lot of sense to me or at least didn't work all that well. Omar wants to help this kid with his clothes and whatnot, but then gets him hooked on hard drugs and has 'SIN' and 'BAD' tattooed to him? He takes him on because he wants intelligent conversation, and I recall zero of those. They didn't set Nas' transformation up nearly well enough for me. Wouldn't have minded a little closure for Bizarrio Dawson, either.

I give it two and a half mehs and wish I hadn't bothered. Just a smash cut of Turuturro would have been enough for me.

I'm with you on that.

As i get older, i try to give way to deeper meanings in shows like this. Like, the whole point of the show, i guess, was to show.....

[SHOW]

how the criminal justice system turned an innocent college student into a hardened criminal (likely to become a repeat offender). I guess the murder was secondary. And that's ok, but it would have been nice for a montage what actually happen, since it was heavily implied the CPA guy was the murderer.

As a side note, did anyone else notice, in the beginning credits, James Gandolfini is credited as an executive producer? Turns out it was a passion project of his and he was set to star as Naz' lawyer. Maybe this was common knowledge already and i just missed it. Nonetheless, i thought it was interesting.

That would probably also explain the lack of closure considering how the sopranos ended. Heyyooooooo

I liked the cat part.

They shot a pilot years ago w/ Gandolfini in the Turturro role and Exec Producing. HBO passed, then came back around to it. I want very much to see this pilot ep.

Bizzarrio Dawson is the funniest thing I've read on the Internet in a while.

I agree that finding out who actually did it is kind of secondary, and that the impact the criminal justice system has on people was the meat of the show.
The guy who played Dennis Box was phenomenal. IMO the emotional core of the show even more than Turturro. We see him go from confidently pinning the murder on Nas to questioning himself to full-on disbelieving his original assumptions, and living with the guilt of not being more thorough from the jump. A great performance. I hope to see that actor in bigger parts soon.

I liked it. I don't care if we don't know "who done it". The show wasn't a crime story about a murder. My biggest complaint is what Siagon said re: the relationship between Nas and Freddie. Could have been developed a bit more.

I think re Freddie and Nas, Freddie is the same as Box or the DA or the power-hungry celebrity attorney and really just wants to use Nas to his advantage as part of the cycle of the criminal justice system. He told him some song-and-dance stuff about needing a smart guy in prison, but he was just using him to be a drug mule. Those usable parts are filled easily by Freddie, which we see when Nas recruits a new guy for him in the last ep. By hooking him on heroin or whatever and tattooing his neck he helps make Nas more likely to become a recidivist and to stay in the system. Freddie is betting that Nas will be back in Rikers soon enough to help him out some more, and that because of the way the system works Nas won't be able to say no to helping him when he does eventually land back there.

I though the relationship between Nas and Chandra was ludicrous. Why would she kiss him? Why would she go buy drugs on a street corner and smuggle them into Rikers for him? She's young, certainly, with a lot to learn, but those seem like preposterously big mistakes for me to swallow as part of the narrative.

If the purpose of the story is to show how the criminal justice system changes everyone who touches it, I think a heightened emotional connection between two very good looking young people with a lot in common who find themselves in a heightened emotional situation is within reason. I think the Freddy stuff was about how in prison you grab onto any connection to feeling ok, whether that's drugs or friendship, but mostly I think the purpose for freddy was to a) easily explain why Nas wasn't violated meat for other inmates and b) facilitate his moral decline because of how prison forces you into doing things you wouldn't otherwise do.

They weren't realistic or unrealistic, they were just ways to facilitate the writer's intention, which is true of anything in any show, but I don't have any issues with anything that happened on the night of, other than the exema close up's.

What I heard and read several places was that it devolved into Law and Order by the end. I was interested but now I'm not sure I'll check it out. It's lower in the queue.

Been thinking about rewatching Justified again because it was so much fun. I miss that dialogue. Might skip around a bit though.