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[cardsfansince82]

Well, that's pretty much what Boise is doing though isn't it? I think the truth of it is that programs are absolutely afraid to play Boise St. Lots of crappy nobody teams schedule home and homes and it's not a problem. The problem is that if you lose to Boise St. your season is likely shot, but if you beat them it's not going to benefit you a lot in the BCS. AD's know that Boise St is realistically capable of beating their teams, so they won't do home and homes. I understand why they do it, but I think it has a lot more to do with fear than money. Hell, Boise St-VT just gave ESPN their highest College Football rating since 1994.

How does beating a highly ranked Boise team not help someone's cause? You can't argue Boise is a legit team that should be taken seriously and in the same breath say that losing to them would ruin a team's season. Losing to anyone can ruin championship hopes. Losing to a good team can give you faint championship hopes and still solid BCS hopes. Crappy nobody teams play home and homes because they are crappy nobody teams. Powerhouse programs pay crappy nobody teams to come to their place.

[InvincibleCakeEater]

Well, that's pretty much what Boise is doing though isn't it? I think the truth of it is that programs are absolutely afraid to play Boise St. Lots of crappy nobody teams schedule home and homes and it's not a problem. The problem is that if you lose to Boise St. your season is likely shot, but if you beat them it's not going to benefit you a lot in the BCS. AD's know that Boise St is realistically capable of beating their teams, so they won't do home and homes. I understand why they do it, but I think it has a lot more to do with fear than money. Hell, Boise St-VT just gave ESPN their highest College Football rating since 1994.

How does beating a highly ranked Boise team not help someone's cause? You can't argue Boise is a legit team that should be taken seriously and in the same breath say that losing to them would ruin a team's season. Losing to anyone can ruin championship hopes. Losing to a good team can give you faint championship hopes and still solid BCS hopes. Crappy nobody teams play home and homes because they are crappy nobody teams. Powerhouse programs pay crappy nobody teams to come to their place.

So you're basically agreeing that nobody schedules Boise St because they're afraid of losing to them, right?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Well, that's pretty much what Boise is doing though isn't it? I think the truth of it is that programs are absolutely afraid to play Boise St. Lots of crappy nobody teams schedule home and homes and it's not a problem. The problem is that if you lose to Boise St. your season is likely shot, but if you beat them it's not going to benefit you a lot in the BCS. AD's know that Boise St is realistically capable of beating their teams, so they won't do home and homes. I understand why they do it, but I think it has a lot more to do with fear than money. Hell, Boise St-VT just gave ESPN their highest College Football rating since 1994.

How does beating a highly ranked Boise team not help someone's cause? You can't argue Boise is a legit team that should be taken seriously and in the same breath say that losing to them would ruin a team's season. Losing to anyone can ruin championship hopes. Losing to a good team can give you faint championship hopes and still solid BCS hopes. Crappy nobody teams play home and homes because they are crappy nobody teams. Powerhouse programs pay crappy nobody teams to come to their place.

Good BCS teams don't want to schedule Boise because it's an unnecessary risk if they have Championship aspirations. Their schedule is strong enough without Boise on it.

Crappy BCS teams don't want to schedule Boise because they'll likely lose, and they really need those non-con wins to get a bowl and the money that goes with that.

[vinsanity]

Boise State beat the #10 team in the preseason poll. A team that is anywhere from the 1st to 5th best team in the 3rd or 4th best conference.

A little off topic, but say OSU runs the table in the Big 10, say they beat Miami, PSU, Wisc and Iowa. But it turns out that the current rankings were a bit generous and all go on to have 3 or 4 or even 5 loses and maybe one of them finishes in the top 25. No one will say "Well they beat some tough teams according to the pre-season poll, but since those teams didn't end up ranked anywhere, lets knock em down a peg."

And ICE is 100% right, if Bama or Iowa played Boise St at home or even on a neutral field there's a a good chance they'd be favored to win. So winning that game isn't going to jump Iowa up to the top 3 or 4, Bama is #1 and as long as they play Miami of OH or San Jose St and win, they stay #1. But if they lose to Boise at home? It's not like losing to a conference Rival or a 'power house', cause Boise still doesn't get the respect. So it's more like losing to just another 'ranked' team, they're more likely to fall further than if they lose to say a PSU or a Miami U. However, VT only slid 3 points for their loss 'at home' to Boise, so maybe the voters are giving them some credit now.

[lukethedrifter]

Boise State beat the #10 team in the preseason poll. A team that is anywhere from the 1st to 5th best team in the 3rd or 4th best conference.

A little off topic, but say OSU runs the table in the Big 10, say they beat Miami, PSU, Wisc and Iowa. But it turns out that the current rankings were a bit generous and all go on to have 3 or 4 or even 5 loses and maybe one of them finishes in the top 25. No one will say "Well they beat some tough teams according to the pre-season poll, but since those teams didn't end up ranked anywhere, lets knock em down a peg."

And ICE is 100% right, if Bama or Iowa played Boise St at home or even on a neutral field there's a a good chance they'd be favored to win. So winning that game isn't going to jump Iowa up to the top 3 or 4, Bama is #1 and as long as they play Miami of OH or San Jose St and win, they stay #1. But if they lose to Boise at home? It's not like losing to a conference Rival or a 'power house', cause Boise still doesn't get the respect. So it's more like losing to just another 'ranked' team, they're more likely to fall further than if they lose to say a PSU or a Miami U. However, VT only slid 3 points for their loss 'at home' to Boise, so maybe the voters are giving them some credit now.

If BSU is living up to its preseason #3 ranking then they get beat you're nuts if you don't think the other team get some bounce out of that. BSU is the football version of Gonzaga except maybe even more feared and respected at this point. They were a preseason Top 5 team!

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

Well, that's pretty much what Boise is doing though isn't it? I think the truth of it is that programs are absolutely afraid to play Boise St. Lots of crappy nobody teams schedule home and homes and it's not a problem. The problem is that if you lose to Boise St. your season is likely shot, but if you beat them it's not going to benefit you a lot in the BCS. AD's know that Boise St is realistically capable of beating their teams, so they won't do home and homes. I understand why they do it, but I think it has a lot more to do with fear than money. Hell, Boise St-VT just gave ESPN their highest College Football rating since 1994.

How does beating a highly ranked Boise team not help someone's cause? You can't argue Boise is a legit team that should be taken seriously and in the same breath say that losing to them would ruin a team's season. Losing to anyone can ruin championship hopes. Losing to a good team can give you faint championship hopes and still solid BCS hopes. Crappy nobody teams play home and homes because they are crappy nobody teams. Powerhouse programs pay crappy nobody teams to come to their place.

So you're basically agreeing that nobody schedules Boise St because they're afraid of losing to them, right?

I don't know if you can say losing to Boise would even be a hit to your BCS hopes if you're a top team (one that is going to win your conference).

If Bama/FL/TX/OU/NB lost to Boise in Week 1 and then ran the SEC/Big12 you can't tell me they don't get in.... If it came down to a 12-1 Bama, 13-0 OU and 12,13 (?) - 0 Boise State, it might get dicey, however.

[phins]

If none of the big boys are willing to step up and play Boise State in non conference play then it's not their fault on the competition side. They can only play whoever is put in front of them. Too bad the Pac 10 didn't expand further and add them in addition to Colorado and Utah.

Sure, judge them based on who they play. That's all most of us have been wanting them to do.

As in, ding them for playing Saan Jose St and Utah St etc. Boise would never play for the national title in my world just based on who they play compared to BCS teams.

[vinsanity]

If BSU is living up to its preseason #3 ranking then they get beat you're nuts if you don't think the other team get some bounce out of that. BSU is the football version of Gonzaga except maybe even more feared and respected at this point. They were a preseason Top 5 team!

I guess what I meant was, if VT had won last week I don't think they woulda gotten as big of a boost as Miami would if they beat OSU.

I'd say in a few weeks, PSU would get a bigger bump from beating a (presumably) #2 OSU than #3 Boise. It's hard to know, but it doesn't seem like Boise, even if they win out and one of the major conference champs have 1 loss, is going to get a shot at the Title.

[lukethedrifter]

Phins, glad to see that your std cleared up.

[vinsanity]

Sure, judge them based on who they play. That's all most of us have been wanting them to do.

As in, ding them for playing Saan Jose St and Utah St etc. Boise would never play for the national title in my world just based on who they play compared to BCS teams.

I understand that VT was the best team they'll play all season. And other than Oregon State it's pretty much the dumps, but they haven't proven they don't belong yet. They should have pitted TCU and Boise against major conference teams last year and see where they stood. Worst case? They get blown out, and you know they can't matchup.

But if you're going to judge them based on who they've played....shouldn't they be #1 right now?

Alabama just played one San Jose St, so shouldn't they get a ding? So far Boise is the only team to have beaten a Top 10 ranked team, so shouldn't they get a point for that?