UPDATE: Cards Acquire Holliday, page 26

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Re: UPDATE: Cards Acquire Holliday, page 26

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fanforever wrote:
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MrCrowesGarden wrote:For those interested, Holliday is taking Jed's # 15.
oohhh

I'd rather he call Mac and ask for 25.
Mac already gave him tips in regards to his stance and it fked him up. He changed back to his leg kick last month and has been on a tear ever since
Yeah, them having a relationship is what made me think that.

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Freed Roger wrote:I wish we could have seen Wallace play as a Cardinal at least for a while. TLR never plays young prospect unless forced too( Wainwright 06, Pujols etc etc etc.)
I don't think there's much evidence of that. What other legitimate young prospects have the Cards had that Larussa has refused to play?

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He's taking 15 away from McRae.

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Re: UPDATE: Cards Acquire Holliday, page 26

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per mlbtraderumors
Comparing The Two Matt Holliday Trades
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 24 at 1:36pm CST]
The A's traded Matt Holliday to the Cardinals less than a year after acquiring him from the Rockies. Let's take a look at what the A's gave up to get Holliday, what he provided in Oakland and what the A's obtained from the Cards.

Here's what Billy Beane traded away to get Holliday:

Huston Street - A quality reliever who attracted trade interest himself before the Rockies started winning. The Rockies pay Street $4.5MM this season and control him through next year.

Carlos Gonzalez - Just 23, he hasn't hit much in the majors yet, but "has the tools" to break out, according to Kevin Goldstein.

Greg Smith - The 25-year-old lefty has just pitched in the minors this year, without much success.


Here's what Holliday offered in three and a half months as an Athletic:

He hit .286/.378/.454 with 11 homers and 12 steals in 15 attempts. Holliday has also played strong defense in left.

The A's have paid about $8MM of his $13.5MM salary so far.

Perhaps most importantly, the A's had a chance at contending because they acquired Holliday. It didn't work out, but the chance for a playoff run is worth something.


And what the A's obtained from the Cardinals for him:


Brett Wallace - Ranks 21st on Baseball America's mid-season list of the game's top prospects. The 22-year-old is a patient hitter with some power and limited defensive potential at third base.

Shane Peterson - Goldstein says the 21-year-old can play first and both corner outfield positions. He's a line drive hitter with good speed now playing in AA. John Sickels says he can be a fourth outfielder in the majors.

Clayton Mortensen - Goldstein says there are no guarantees with the righty, but he could become a back-of-the-rotation starter.

About $4MM in salary relief - the A's will chip in for $1.5MM, leaving the Cardinals with a $4MM tab.

The A's lose the chance at the compensation picks they would have received if they had offered Holliday arbitration after the season only to see him sign elsewhere.
Some are calling the trade a big win for the A's, but the Cardinals improve their 2009 chances and please their manager and best player all at the same time.

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haltz wrote:no respect for Jimmy Ballgame. One demerit for Holliday.
He's a bald white guy who hustles and is the first star acquisition they've made in years. He's going to have to beat up Ted Drewes, bone Albert Pujols' wife, and urinate on August Busch's grave to avoid getting a thunderous standing-O the first time he comes up at home.

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Freed Roger wrote:BTW- Slaten is ranting against the trade. no way they'll re-sign Holliday Derosa he says.
LOL. Tuned in online for about five seconds.

Slaten is calling this "Brock for Broglio in Reverse". What a doof.

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Michael wrote:
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dexter wrote:has derosa indicated that he is interested in re-signing? nsbbians are confident he'll return to wrigleyville.

He loved playing in Chicago, but I think that is partly wishful thinking.
Id like to see where its been said on NSBB that we are confident he will return to the Cubs. Very little has been said to that effect.

Fair enough. I took his quote at face value.
Understood and not a big deal. There was alot of talk at NSBB about trying to bring him back in a trade, but I dont recall much about signing him in the offseason coming up. Personally, Id rather the Cubs move Theriot to 2nd base, and go out and get a good major league SS, instead of a 34 yr old DeRo.

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wallace became so underrated that's he's overrated. how long until he's so overrated that he's underrated again?

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Sucks for Oakland that we decided to call up Mortensen for a day and not use him. Started his clock already. and hes on the 40 man for them now.

Oops. we did use him. o well.
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Leroy wrote:Our farm system sucks again.
Our minor league season is over.

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