TV Thread - beware, [expletive] can get spoilery

[thrill]

Man I thought it was great. Just another example of how great Vince Gilligan is at instilling a humanity into his characters before they start doing bad enough things for you to dislike them.

[cardinalkarp]

Man I thought it was great. Just another example of how great Vince Gilligan is at instilling a humanity into his characters before they start doing bad enough things for you to dislike them.

Well, yeah there was that....definitely the end of Jimmy McGill and the beginning of Saul Goodman. Just didn't feel like alot of substance for a "finale". I guess I'm just ready to start seeing Saul, enough of this Jimmy character

[TAZ]

If the defence is "they're just jokes", and Noah doesn't think that all fat women are disgusting, or beating women is funny, or that Jews are evil, then I think it's fair to wonder about why he made them. People ultimately ought to be responsible for the things they do or say. Which is why I think Oswalt's inserting himself into a story that's absolutely nothing to do with him is so ridiculous - using a "butterfly / butter fly" joke, as if that's the same as "Originally when men proposed they went down on one knee so if the woman said no they were in the perfect uppercut position" is stupid. If Oswalt thinks anything is fair game at any time, I look forward to him doing an evening at the Apollo and filling his set with n-word jokes.

I've found the easiest way to avoid being thought of as a misogynist or anti-Semitic, is to not make misogynist or anti-Semitic jokes.

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I'm right there with you Mort (except I spell "defense" the wrong way apparently).

This was a nice response to Oswalt, who I generally really like...

http://blogs.indiewire.com/criticwire/a ... t-20150403

It was best explained to me as a difference between "punching up" vs "punching down". Punching up is a vital service that our culture needs, it exposes those in power in a joking manner and can show us that sometimes the emperor has no clothes.

Punching down at the underpriviledged is laziness and unoriginality at best and taking an active part in the subjugation of that group at worst.

Calling that out is not taking away any freedoms. And "criticism" is not the same as a "lynching" or "PC culture run amuck", criticism is the start of a debate of ideas with real people being impacted as the subject matter.

Edit - And "twitter essays" are a thing now??

[TAZ]

Did anybody watch this season of Shameless? After a couple lacking seasons, I thought this one did a nice job of being honest in framing how Fiona treats those around her. I really like Dermot Mulroney's character but man she's doing everything she possibly can to destroy him.

Ian's story-line got a little weary, but when he

[SHOW]

broke up with Mikey I thought that was extremely [expletive]. He's the most loyal character in that show and to have him get thrown away like that was cold-hearted.

And you knew that Debbie

[SHOW]

was going to get pregnant from like the very first episode ever, so it's finally here. Wonder where they're going to take it. Hope she gets an abortion.

[TAZ]

Man I thought it was great. Just another example of how great Vince Gilligan is at instilling a humanity into his characters before they start doing bad enough things for you to dislike them.

Well, yeah there was that....definitely the end of Jimmy McGill and the beginning of Saul Goodman. Just didn't feel like alot of substance for a "finale". I guess I'm just ready to start seeing Saul, enough of this Jimmy character

I felt the same way, Karp. My wife said it felt more like the penultimate episode rather than the season finale.

Jimmy humming at the very end was a nice touch, which I think was the whole point of the entire season. In BB we saw Saul as a little bit his brother, a little bit Marco. But his ability to relate (maybe the word "manipulate" might work better sometimes) to people was influenced by Marco and his ability to scheme the law to get it to bend to where he needs it is influenced by his relationship with his brother. It's a nice twist from simply "his brother was the good honest stand-up guy but his Slippin' Jimmy past relationships are what made him Saul from BB". No, he gets good and bad influences from each of his past experiences, just like, you know, people in real life.

3 posts in a row and I'm out... sorry.

[Jocephus]

the girl in the chinchilla was andie macdowels daughter

[thrill]

the girl in the chinchilla was andie macdowels daughter

and real, real attractive.

[JackofDiamonds]

Anyone else in on Orphan Black? This show is bonkers.

[cardinalkarp]

Anyone else in on Orphan Black? This show is bonkers.

wanting to start watching....good?

[JackofDiamonds]

Tatiana Maslany is worth the price of admission alone, she does yeoman's work on the show, playing (convincingly) like... 7 different characters.

Not to get too into the plot, but the high-level is that there's a set of clones that are becoming self-aware at the same time that they're being hunted by a crazy religious sect. It's a sci-fi show, but you don't need to be a genre fan to enjoy it. It blows through plot at an alarming rate; I wrapped-up Season 1 last night and I'm not entirely sure what more they could do going forward.