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Jocephus wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40nrw3V3GA

What we may have witnessed is some sort of dead cat bounce for John McCain. One possibility is that, as more voters are taking advantage of early voting windows across the country, the pollsters are finding that some voters whom they considered "unlikely" voters have in fact turned out to vote. Zogby gives Obama a 21-point lead nationwide among people who have already voted, and SurveyUSA and Civitas peg his advantage among early voters in North Carolina at around 20 and 30 points, respectively.

Here is more evidence, in this case from PPP, that Florida has tightened. The McCain campaign probably also has reason to feel a bit better about their standing in Ohio. Still -- in spite of their historical importance as swing states -- Florida and Ohio really constitute more of Obama's Plan B, with Colorado and Virginia being the top tier. And there isn't much evidence that Colorado and Virginia have tigthened (although InsiderAdvantage does have Obama's lead narrowing a bit in the former).

pop_haines wrote:

BW23 wrote:That's the only way we judge people? How they finished at school? Nothing past that matters?

I agree that Obama is smart. I think McCain is much smarter than people give him credit for.

But I don't think either are where I'd want a president.

Hobson's choice, then.

Does this mean you won't vote?

I won't vote if you won't.

Wait, where do you live again?

Updated national numbers from the last 2 days:

Pew: Obama 53, McCain 39 (+14)
CBS: Obama 54, McCain 41 (+13)
NBC: Obama +52, McCain 42 (+10)
Gallup: Obama 52, McCain 42 (+10)
ABC: Obama 53, McCain 44 (+9)
Ipsos: Obama 50, McCain 42 (+8)
Zogby: Obama 50, McCain 42 (+8)
R2000: Obama 50, McCain 42 (+8)
TIPP: Obama 47, McCain 41 (+6)
Hotline: Obama 47, McCain 41 (+6)
Democracy Corps: Obama 49, McCain 44 (+5)
ARG: Obama 49 McCain 45 (+4)
Rasmussen: Obama 50, McCain 46 (+4)
Battleground: Obama 48, McCain 47 (+1)

Mean: Obama 50.3, McCain 42.7 (Obama +7.6)
Median: Obama 50.0, McCain 42.0 (Obama +8.0)

BW23 wrote:

pop_haines wrote:

BW23 wrote:That's the only way we judge people? How they finished at school? Nothing past that matters?

I agree that Obama is smart. I think McCain is much smarter than people give him credit for.

But I don't think either are where I'd want a president.

Hobson's choice, then.

Does this mean you won't vote?

I won't vote if you won't.

Wait, where do you live again?

Here in Missouri.

I'll vote as much as I don't like either guy. I just like one a tiny bit more.

Freed Roger wrote:

BW23 wrote:

pop_haines wrote:

BW23 wrote:That's the only way we judge people? How they finished at school? Nothing past that matters?

I agree that Obama is smart. I think McCain is much smarter than people give him credit for.

But I don't think either are where I'd want a president.

Hobson's choice, then.

Does this mean you won't vote?

I won't vote if you won't.

Wait, where do you live again?

Here in Missouri.

I'll vote as much as I don't like either guy. I just like one a tiny bit more.

So do you consider both McCain and Obama a step down from the president we've had the last 8 years?

GatewaySnayke wrote:Where does the McCain campaign go if the "Obama is a socialist" meme doesn't get pushed through?