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Does it really matter that much to you?
It does! "Spoiler" phobia has led us to an internet culture in which you can't talk about anything because there's that one doofus out there who has had his whole life to watch the "Godfather" movies and never has but will still get mad if you tell him that Michael has Fredo killed in the end. Now people are demanding spoiler tags for news stories--Robert Durst "confessing" and getting arrested is news. I've seen people wanting sports to be spoilered--folks got mad at news outlets for doing their jobs and reporting on events at the Olympics, and I saw someone in a thread here expressing irritation that the radio station he tuned in to on his way home reported the outcome of a Cardinals game that he was recording. One day we won't be able to talk about World War II for fear of spoiling the fact that Hitler loses.

Anyway, here are some pretty good articles about this really dumb controversy.

http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospect ... -the-jinx/
If you or someone you love has participated in the spoiler “debate” around The Jinx, step back for a second and consider the absurdity of what you’re involved in. There is no debate. The Jinx cannot be spoiled. It isn’t Game of Thrones; it’s a documentary investigation that may have brought about the arrest of a man in the investigation of the killing of a woman. There’s no other side to this conversation, no standard for revealing that information, and it belongs on a CNN scroll and the front page of the Times and in Daily Beast email blasts, insofar as any piece of news related to a high-profile murder investigation belongs in those places....

...There is a tremendous arrogance to the belief that The Jinx can be spoiled. It implies a possessiveness toward the story; it suggests that the consumption of Durst’s narrative belongs to the viewer in some way. It’s a confusion inspired by our relationship to art, which depends on an audience: Without an observer, art (and, more loosely, entertainment) is missing a significant part of its nature. Art requires a viewer to be activated, and its impact doesn’t exist otherwise....

....The Jinx does not need us. If no one ever saw The Jinx, it wouldn’t change the fact that Robert Durst was accused of killing three people. Robert Durst made his possible confession regardless of the number of people watching the television show he “stars” in — speaking of which: Seeing him referred to in news reports as the “star” of The Jinx was … strange — and, though of course the show’s popularity has affected its rejuvenation as an active case, that isn’t the immediate catalyst.
http://www.vulture.com/2015/03/spoiler- ... er_vulture
When a famous murder suspect all but confesses, it is news, and the fact that the confession happened within the confines of a television show does not mean that that news becomes subject to the same etiquette as the latest Game of Thrones killing. Because that's fiction, and it doesn't really matter.

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no one really gives a [expletive] about your hatred of spoilers tbh

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why so serious

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go birds wrote:tbh
Thank goodness for Urban Dictionary.

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robbotis wrote:
ghostrunner wrote:Learned in a recap's comments section that apparently the inability of The Walking Dead to sustain more than one black male regular has been called "Black Highlander theory".
I hear these things, but disagree. The Walking Dead has arguably the most diverse cast on TV. Main, or at least main group, characters die all the time. Yes, T-Dog, Noah, and Tyreese died. They were black. Herschell, Shane, Laurie, Beth, Andrea, and Dale died too. They were white. The Walking Dead is an equal opportunity killer.

Also, Sunday's episode was awesome, yet again. These Alexandria folks are absolutely worthless. It was nice to Abraham wreck fools. Glenn is so crafty. And Rick and Carol could take over that city in the blink of an eye. Oh, and Father Gabriel, I hope he goes very soon. But then criticswill again say they're killing all the black people... But his scene w/ the leader lady... He's the devil.

I fear for one of my favorite characters though. I think the season finale is going to be a rough one.
I think it's valid given the history of the show.

First season starts off taking place outside Atlanta. Despite that location, you had one major black character and his name was "T-Dog." He was only major in the sense that he appeared onscreen fairly regularly, but he rarely had a significant role in the show. He died early season 3. There's a black prisoner Oscar who showed up somewhere in there and died fairly quickly. Tyreese was I think introduced the same episode that Oscar died, which is where the show really started getting some grief.

From that point on, I think they did pretty well and at the beginning of this season it was a really diverse cast. But you've now had three black guys get written off since the half season started up and probably, as you say, a fourth is coming. And he's an insane coward. Just seems like something of which they'd be more cognizant.

It's lame to be doing this kind of scorekeeping, and I'm not saying it's intentional or malicious on their part, but it did occur to me while watching the last episode.

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michonne was on the show since season 3 (technically season 2 finale) but i guess since she wasn't in the group for awhile it doesn't count?

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Wait, Hitler didn't WW2? Thanks a lot, I was just watching Band of Brothers and was wondering what was going to happen. Put that [expletive] in spoilers. Sheesh.

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AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:Wait, Hitler didn't WW2? Thanks a lot, I was just watching Band of Brothers and was wondering what was going to happen. Put that [expletive] in spoilers. Sheesh.
"Bastogne" has a happy ending!

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i agree with vidor that *some* people get overly upset with a random announced spoiler but harboring any level of hate against a spoiler tag seems dumb (a waste of many faculties). like spitting on a fish.

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Jocephus wrote:michonne was on the show since season 3 (technically season 2 finale) but i guess since she wasn't in the group for awhile it doesn't count?
Well, the whole highlander thing relates to black men. But okay, after 2 full seasons, there was a second major black character. Though it's worth noting there that Michonne was given little more to do than scowl for her first full season.

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