St. Louis Blues 2010 Regular Season Thread

[JackofDiamonds]

What happened in the 3rd last night? Holy [expletive].

It was rough to watch. Just a complete collapse of anything even close to resembling a system.

I turned it off at 4-0. I am not wasting my night watching my team quit.

[longhornbaseball]

The general manager quit over the weekend, so I guess the players figured they should, too.

[MrCrowesGarden]

We weren't going to make the playoffs before the trade deadline anyways, and this team doesn't have the talent as it stands now (or before we traded Boyes and Winchester to make a difference). The only big problem with our two most recent trades is we didn't get an NHL-ready prospect (doesn't have to be a great one) in either. The Boyes one would've been the most likely. A 2nd rounder is a fair return for him IMO, but it would've been nice to put somebody else on the ice with more talent than Porter or Cracknell.

But, that's not going to happen until this ownership situation settles.

[JackofDiamonds]

The general manager quit over the weekend, so I guess the players figured they should, too.

I wouldn't say trading away a UFA that is likely to resign (if we want him too), an overrated big man, and a sniper that can't hit the net as "quitting."

I thought Armstrong was brilliant. I would have expected more for Brewer and I wish that Conklin wouldn't have [expletive] the bed so badly he lost value, but outside of that, I thought the trades made us a better team now and in the future.

We're hurting now because we're missing Perron and Sobotka. I'll take our top 9 right now and run it again next season. Add a free agent in the summer (please) and we're strong.

Stewart - MacDonald - Backes
Perron - Oshie - Berglund (can Bergie play RW?)
Steen - Sobotka - Tarasenko (yes!)

Those lines score goals. That first line is brutal to play against, the second line is skills plus a rejuvenated big Swede, and the 3rd line is pesky as hell with 2 guys on there that can score. Add in D'Agostini to the mix, McRae is supposed to be a scorer, and Free Agent X, and that's a formidable offensive core.

Defensively, Pietrangelo will get the most minutes. I'd like to see more of Shattenkirk before I'd give him #2 minutes. I'd probably like to see Jackman with Pietrangelo to balance out an offensive guy and a stay at home defensemen. Shattenkirk-Polak go 3-4, Coco and Cole are 5-6, with N64 or Strachan as the 7th D/press box guy.

I like that team, that's a strong team. It's not a Cup favorite, but it could win a round or two.

[MrCrowesGarden]

My guess is Bergs would play C and Oshie on the wing in that line (which still isn't too bad). I also wouldn't mind if we just re-signed Brewer to be our #2.

[longhornbaseball]

I wouldn't say trading away a UFA that is likely to resign (if we want him too), an overrated big man, and a sniper that can't hit the net as "quitting."

I thought Armstrong was brilliant. I would have expected more for Brewer and I wish that Conklin wouldn't have [expletive] the bed so badly he lost value, but outside of that, I thought the trades made us a better team now and in the future.

The EJ trade made us a better team now, but I don't see how you can think the other trades did. I don't disagree with what Armstrong did, but its clear he didn't/doesn't expect this team to make the playoffs.

We're hurting now because we're missing Perron and Sobotka. I'll take our top 9 right now and run it again next season. Add a free agent in the summer (please) and we're strong.

Stewart - MacDonald - Backes
Perron - Oshie - Berglund (can Bergie play RW?)
Steen - Sobotka - Tarasenko (yes!)

Those lines score goals. That first line is brutal to play against, the second line is skills plus a rejuvenated big Swede, and the 3rd line is pesky as hell with 2 guys on there that can score. Add in D'Agostini to the mix, McRae is supposed to be a scorer, and Free Agent X, and that's a formidable offensive core.

Defensively, Pietrangelo will get the most minutes. I'd like to see more of Shattenkirk before I'd give him #2 minutes. I'd probably like to see Jackman with Pietrangelo to balance out an offensive guy and a stay at home defensemen. Shattenkirk-Polak go 3-4, Coco and Cole are 5-6, with N64 or Strachan as the 7th D/press box guy.

I like that team, that's a strong team. It's not a Cup favorite, but it could win a round or two.

I loved our base of talent even before we got Stewart. If they sign a big FA this offseason, I think we'll be one of the best teams in the West next year. Stewart should score 30+ and Steen, McDonald, Backes, Oshie, and Perron are all capable of 20-30. Maybe we should sign Chara and have him and Petro play half the game, ala Mac and Pronger in 1999-00.

[JackofDiamonds]

I wouldn't say trading away a UFA that is likely to resign (if we want him too), an overrated big man, and a sniper that can't hit the net as "quitting."

I thought Armstrong was brilliant. I would have expected more for Brewer and I wish that Conklin wouldn't have [expletive] the bed so badly he lost value, but outside of that, I thought the trades made us a better team now and in the future.

The EJ trade made us a better team now, but I don't see how you can think the other trades did. I don't disagree with what Armstrong did, but its clear he didn't/doesn't expect this team to make the playoffs.

We're hurting now because we're missing Perron and Sobotka. I'll take our top 9 right now and run it again next season. Add a free agent in the summer (please) and we're strong.

Stewart - MacDonald - Backes
Perron - Oshie - Berglund (can Bergie play RW?)
Steen - Sobotka - Tarasenko (yes!)

Those lines score goals. That first line is brutal to play against, the second line is skills plus a rejuvenated big Swede, and the 3rd line is pesky as hell with 2 guys on there that can score. Add in D'Agostini to the mix, McRae is supposed to be a scorer, and Free Agent X, and that's a formidable offensive core.

Defensively, Pietrangelo will get the most minutes. I'd like to see more of Shattenkirk before I'd give him #2 minutes. I'd probably like to see Jackman with Pietrangelo to balance out an offensive guy and a stay at home defensemen. Shattenkirk-Polak go 3-4, Coco and Cole are 5-6, with N64 or Strachan as the 7th D/press box guy.

I like that team, that's a strong team. It's not a Cup favorite, but it could win a round or two.

I loved our base of talent even before we got Stewart. If they sign a big FA this offseason, I think we'll be one of the best teams in the West next year. Stewart should score 30+ and Steen, McDonald, Backes, Oshie, and Perron are all capable of 20-30. Maybe we should sign Chara and have him and Petro play half the game, ala Mac and Pronger in 1999-00.

You're right, Boyes and Brewer leaving don't make us better now. I worded that poorly, but I don't think those trades count as giving up the season. Those trades tell everyone that they need to step up. To this point, your performance has not been good enough, if you want to go to the playoffs, you need to be better.

[Popeye_Card]

As a GM, you sometimes have to choose to lose a battle to win a war.

Players should never have any incentive to lose a game.

[thrill]

As a GM, you sometimes have to choose to lose a battle to win a war.

Players should never have any incentive to lose a game.

Yes. The GM's goal is to construct a champion. The player's goal is to win every game they play in.

[longhornbaseball]

The player's goal is to win every game they play in.

I think they did play to win until the 3rd period. There's no excuse for quitting, but I think they outplayed Calgary in 5 of the 6 periods and had no goals to show for it. I can see how they could get discouraged and say "who gives a [expletive]." No excuses, play like a champion and everything, but I'll cut them some slack.