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Simbagal23 wrote:I doubt any store would accept an expired license. This isn't just a Schnucks thing......
I dunno. I bought alcohol from an On-The-Run two weeks ago. I bought alcohol from the bar three weekends in a row. Maybe they're just not catching it? I dunno. I'm not a big purchaser of alcohol -- this is only like the third time I've bought it outside of a bar. Perhaps people should know this before they start giving me lectures about "personal responsibility." I'm sorry that I don't peruse the terms of purchasing from supermarkets...

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GatewaySnayke wrote:
Simbagal23 wrote:I doubt any store would accept an expired license. This isn't just a Schnucks thing......
I dunno. I bought alcohol from an On-The-Run two weeks ago. I bought alcohol from the bar three weekends in a row. Maybe they're just not catching it? I dunno. I'm not a big purchaser of alcohol -- this is only like the third time I've bought it outside of a bar. Perhaps people should know this before they start giving me lectures about "personal responsibility." I'm sorry that I don't peruse the terms of purchasing from supermarkets...
it doesn't matter.. you're still breaking the law.
and no need to apologize..

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omaha_red wrote:you're still breaking the law.
What law is he breaking? Schnucks may be legally obligated to check ID and reject expired licenses, but if you really are of legal drinking age, how can it be illegal to attempt to buy alcohol?

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Arthur Dent wrote:
omaha_red wrote:you're still breaking the law.
What law is he breaking? Schnucks may be legally obligated to check ID and reject expired licenses, but if you really are of legal drinking age, how can it be illegal to attempt to buy alcohol?
I think he's talking about me driving with an expired license.

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Arthur Dent wrote:
omaha_red wrote:you're still breaking the law.
What law is he breaking? Schnucks may be legally obligated to check ID and reject expired licenses, but if you really are of legal drinking age, how can it be illegal to attempt to buy alcohol?

he's driving on an expired license.. illegal, no?

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GatewaySnayke wrote:
Arthur Dent wrote:
omaha_red wrote:you're still breaking the law.
What law is he breaking? Schnucks may be legally obligated to check ID and reject expired licenses, but if you really are of legal drinking age, how can it be illegal to attempt to buy alcohol?
I think he's talking about me driving with an expired license.
Oh. Well in that case, you should drive on down to the DMV and get that fixed.

Edit: I actually had to deal with this once. Not only was the DMV nowhere near a bus stop, there were no sidewalks on the road. So, I had to trunch throught the snow in people's yards to get a license. They're pretty much asking you to drive there unlicensed.
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GatewaySnayke wrote:
Arthur Dent wrote:
omaha_red wrote:you're still breaking the law.
What law is he breaking? Schnucks may be legally obligated to check ID and reject expired licenses, but if you really are of legal drinking age, how can it be illegal to attempt to buy alcohol?
I think he's talking about me driving with an expired license.
i love messing with you snayke.. i could really care less either way..
just like to ruffle some feathers..

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Cronos69 wrote:If the photo looks like the person and the person looks like they're over 21 and the date indicates they're 21, what else are they supposed to do?
They can still get in trouble if the license isn't real. Them's the rules I believe.

For example, I had an ID that said I was from Texas. It looked real according to the book, had a picture of me, holograms, and also my name on it, so I could produce like 37 second forms. The only way you could tell it wasn't quite right is if you held it up next to another Texas ID that was legit. No way a checkout person at Schnuck's would know the difference.

If Schnuck's sold to me and I ran a school bus off a cliff, they could still get sued I believe.

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GatewaySnayke wrote:
Simbagal23 wrote:I doubt any store would accept an expired license. This isn't just a Schnucks thing......
I dunno. I bought alcohol from an On-The-Run two weeks ago. I bought alcohol from the bar three weekends in a row. Maybe they're just not catching it? I dunno. I'm not a big purchaser of alcohol -- this is only like the third time I've bought it outside of a bar. Perhaps people should know this before they start giving me lectures about "personal responsibility." I'm sorry that I don't peruse the terms of purchasing from supermarkets...
Ok, I'll bite....below is the law in Missouri for acceptable forms of ID when purchasing alcohol. So, you can be mad all you want but don't blame Schnucks for following the law and not wanting to lose their right to sell alcohol.

311.328. 1. A valid and unexpired operator's or chauffeur's license issued under the provisions of section 302.177, RSMo, or a valid and unexpired operator's or chauffeur's license issued under the laws of any state or territory of the United States to residents of those states or territories, or a valid and unexpired identification card as provided for under section 302.181, RSMo, or a valid and unexpired identification card issued by any uniformed service of the United States, or a valid and unexpired passport shall be presented by the holder thereof upon request of any agent of the division of alcohol and tobacco control or any licensee or the servant, agent or employee thereof for the purpose of aiding the licensee or the servant, agent or employee to determine whether or not the person is at least twenty-one years of age when such person desires to purchase or consume alcoholic beverages procured from a licensee. Upon such presentation the licensee or the servant, agent or employee thereof shall compare the photograph and physical characteristics noted on the license, identification card or passport with the physical characteristics of the person presenting the license, identification card or passport.

2. Upon proof by the licensee of full compliance with the provisions of this section, no penalty shall be imposed if the supervisor of the division of alcohol and tobacco control or the courts are satisfied that the licensee acted in good faith.

3. Any person who shall, without authorization from the department of revenue, reproduce, alter, modify, or misrepresent any chauffeur's license, motor vehicle operator's license or identification card shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be subject to a fine of not more than one thousand dollars, and confinement for not more than one year, or by both such fine and imprisonment.
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i know its a stupid rule, and this is a rant....

but it would be a lot easier to get a "fake id" if it could just be your older brother's expired license.

dude, why is your license expired?

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