Socnorb11 wrote:Like I said, if the neighborhood is full of crackheads, I don't want to live there, even if some of the neighbors are really cool.
But, I've got no problem with people who do like hip-hop.
You realize you're writing this analogy on the internet. Again, the INTERNET. You know, the place where... oh, 95% of it is hardcore pornography. Do you see the irony here?
Like haltz said, Music is generally a passive experience. It's not like you pick up a KRS One album and all of a sudden you're inundated by rappers calling people "[expletive]" and whatnot. It's not really like that at all. You pick and choose what you like and, at worst, ignore the rest.
Well, the "internet" is like the "music industry". I'm not opposed to the music industry as a whole.
So the "rap industry" has enough in common (even thought that's the furthest thing from the truth) for you to say it all fits under the same umbrella?
Are the Dixie Chicks and Toby Keith kinda all the same thing to you as well?
Toby Keith and the Dixie Chicks both fall into the same genre of music, in my opinion.
Honestly, my opinion is more than likely an uninformed one. That's why I'm not adamant about hating hip-hop. To me, it falls into the category of music that's producting smut. Just my opinion....... doesn't make it right, and I don't want hip-hop fans (the ones who can differentiate the "good" from the "bad") to be offended. I commend you for being able to differentiate. I can't. Seriously.
Socnorb11 wrote:
Personally, I think that rap and hip-hop fall into the same category, and it's difficult to differentiate who's producing the trash and who's not. I think most common folks would agree.
is that really true? have you taken the time to listen to what you (might) like and what you dont? is it difficult to differentiate between ...black sabbath and marilyn manson?...a "heavy rock" band vs a "goth rock band"?
Honestly, I haven't taken much time. I'm admittedly making a lot of generalizations.
Socnorb11 wrote:Like I said, if the neighborhood is full of crackheads, I don't want to live there, even if some of the neighbors are really cool.
But, I've got no problem with people who do like hip-hop.
You realize you're writing this analogy on the internet. Again, the INTERNET. You know, the place where... oh, 95% of it is hardcore pornography. Do you see the irony here?
Like haltz said, Music is generally a passive experience. It's not like you pick up a KRS One album and all of a sudden you're inundated by rappers calling people "[expletive]" and whatnot. It's not really like that at all. You pick and choose what you like and, at worst, ignore the rest.
Well, the "internet" is like the "music industry". I'm not opposed to the music industry as a whole.
So the "rap industry" has enough in common (even thought that's the furthest thing from the truth) for you to say it all fits under the same umbrella?
Are the Dixie Chicks and Toby Keith kinda all the same thing to you as well?
Toby Keith and the Dixie Chicks both fall into the same genre of music, in my opinion.
Honestly, my opinion is more than likely an uninformed one. That's why I'm not adamant about hating hip-hop. To me, it falls into the category of music that's producting smut. Just my opinion....... doesn't make it right, and I don't want hip-hop fans (the ones who can differentiate the "good" from the "bad") to be offended. I commend you for being able to differentiate. I can't. Seriously.
Well, it's uninformed and unfair as well. But as long as you realize that.
Socnorb11 wrote:My understanding is that hip-hop is a "branch" of the rap industry. Since the rap industry is producing smut, I'd prefer to not partake in the industry as a whole.
Socnorb11 wrote:My understanding is that hip-hop is a "branch" of the rap industry. Since the rap industry is producing smut, I'd prefer to not partake in the industry as a whole.
Just for the record a lot of hip hop is an intentionally positive message, maybe more than any other genre. Now, that doesn't mean that it's conveyed in a way that soccer moms are going to be comfortable with, but it's still a positive message. There's also been a bit of a backlash in the hip hop community over rap that glorifies the wrong sort of things (cheap chart-toppers like any other genre), and there has been for a while.
Until my days end I'm gettin paid my friend
Without pimpin my soul, the gangster limpin was old
So I "Walk Like a Man" and, talk to my fans
Clocked a few grand but you gotta understand
I got a little money and I, coulda bought a chain
But my momma woulda killed me, simple and plain
EDIT: I actually don't really care what artists "glorify," don't listen to music for a sermon, and if it's a "problem" it's a problem with country music as well, but I think it's cool, and something that most people don't recognize.
Socnorb11 wrote:My understanding is that hip-hop is a "branch" of the rap industry. Since the rap industry is producing smut, I'd prefer to not partake in the industry as a whole.
Socnorb11 wrote:My understanding is that hip-hop is a "branch" of the rap industry. Since the rap industry is producing smut, I'd prefer to not partake in the industry as a whole.
So what music industry isn't producing smut?
Country music doesn't produce vulgar music.
Neither does the pop industry, that I'm aware of.
"save a horse, ride a cowboy" isn't smut?
"why don't we get drunk and screw" isn't smut?
and pop music has been about nothing but sex for 20 years
