NBA Offseason Thread.

[Socnorb11]

I see why Cleveland fans are bummed and how he looks like an ass for his special. But all of this legacy, abandonment, buying a championship, Cleveland needs a hero stuff is bull [expletive]. You play to win the game. Doesn't take a genius to see that Miami gives him a better chance than Cleveland to do it.

James Worthy, Steve Kerr, BJ Armstrong, Luke Walton, etc. all have won championships. You think anybody really cares? They do..... and their families, I suppose. But they're nothing special just because they won championships. Lebron had a chance to be REALLY special. Not now.

[omaha_red]

I see why Cleveland fans are bummed and how he looks like an ass for his special. But all of this legacy, abandonment, buying a championship, Cleveland needs a hero stuff is bull [expletive]. You play to win the game. Doesn't take a genius to see that Miami gives him a better chance than Cleveland to do it.

i don't think many will argue you on that.. although i'd prefer loyalty to winning a championship.. that's just me though.

[omaha_red]

I see why Cleveland fans are bummed and how he looks like an ass for his special. But all of this legacy, abandonment, buying a championship, Cleveland needs a hero stuff is bull [expletive]. You play to win the game. Doesn't take a genius to see that Miami gives him a better chance than Cleveland to do it.

James Worthy, Steve Kerr, BJ Armstrong, Luke Walton, etc. all have won championships. You think anybody really cares? They do..... and their families, I suppose. But they're nothing special just because they won championships. Lebron had a chance to be REALLY special. Not now.

agreed.. just think if lebron stuck it out in cleveland and maybe only won 1 championship..
to me, that would be way more special or whatever than winning 3 or 4 with the super team
in miami..

even if he never won one.. who cares.. at least he stuck it out with his team.

[InvincibleCakeEater]

I see why Cleveland fans are bummed and how he looks like an ass for his special. But all of this legacy, abandonment, buying a championship, Cleveland needs a hero stuff is bull [expletive]. You play to win the game. Doesn't take a genius to see that Miami gives him a better chance than Cleveland to do it.

James Worthy, Steve Kerr, BJ Armstrong, Luke Walton, etc. all have won championships. You think anybody really cares? They do..... and their families, I suppose. But they're nothing special just because they won championships. Lebron had a chance to be REALLY special. Not now.

Are you really trying to compare those guys to LeBron? You seem to be forgetting that he also could have signed with the Cavs and they could have kept bringing in the Larry Hughes' of the world like they have for the last 7 freaking years and he plays 6 more years without a ring. What's special about that? He's going to keep on being the best player in the game, he's going to win rings and a few years from now everyone is going to remember Cleveland for being the team that had the best player in the game and couldn't get the talent to win with him.

[thrill]

I see why Cleveland fans are bummed and how he looks like an ass for his special. But all of this legacy, abandonment, buying a championship, Cleveland needs a hero stuff is bull [expletive]. You play to win the game. Doesn't take a genius to see that Miami gives him a better chance than Cleveland to do it.

James Worthy, Steve Kerr, BJ Armstrong, Luke Walton, etc. all have won championships. You think anybody really cares? They do..... and their families, I suppose. But they're nothing special just because they won championships. Lebron had a chance to be REALLY special. Not now.

Are you really trying to compare those guys to LeBron? You seem to be forgetting that he also could have signed with the Cavs and they could have kept bringing in the Larry Hughes' of the world like they have for the last 7 freaking years and he plays 6 more years without a ring. What's special about that? He's going to keep on being the best player in the game, he's going to win rings and a few years from now everyone is going to remember Cleveland for being the team that had the best player in the game and couldn't get the talent to win with him.

Because of the way players like Jordan, Russell, Magic, Bird and Kobe are deified and held up as the standard by which LeBron is to be measured, this comes off as shirking competition. Making it too easy and being all too willing to defer.

I don't necessarily disagree with anything you said, but reality is that based on the people he is going to compared to, he's doomed himself to fall short.

[InvincibleCakeEater]

Because of the way players like Jordan, Russell, Magic, Bird and Kobe are deified and held up as the standard by which LeBron is to be measured, this comes off as shirking competition. Making it too easy and being all too willing to defer.

I don't necessarily disagree with anything you said, but reality is that based on the people he is going to compared to, he's doomed himself to fall short.

It's damned if you do, damned if you don't. Let's say that he stays and Cleveland and wins 2 rings. That's great, but the same people bagging on him now for going to Miami saying he won't be as "great" would be the same people saying "Kobe has 5 rings," "Jordan has 6 rings," etc. I think he's well aware of all of this and said [expletive] it, I want to win.

[Jocephus]

mullins>lebron

[Michael]

Re: Giving up Money

According to Brian Windhorst, Lebron and the Heat are trying to talk the Cavs into making a sign and trade max deal. I suspect before the meltdown they figured the Cav's hand would be forced and they'd do it. I don't think Lebron and Co ever figured they wouldn't get the max deal.

[vinsanity]

Are you really trying to compare those guys to LeBron? You seem to be forgetting that he also could have signed with the Cavs and they could have kept bringing in the Larry Hughes' of the world like they have for the last 7 freaking years and he plays 6 more years without a ring. What's special about that? He's going to keep on being the best player in the game, he's going to win rings and a few years from now everyone is going to remember Cleveland for being the team that had the best player in the game and couldn't get the talent to win with him.

Do you think the Cavs got guys like Mo Williams or Jameson cause that's how t hey thought they'd build the best team? Or is it because LeBron said, go get me those guys so we can try and win this.

I doubt Shaq is on that team last year, if LeBron wasn't going to be FA this year. I'd almost guarantee LeBron was signing off on all of those deals. Now he's leaving Cleveland with the [expletive] team he asked for.

[InvincibleCakeEater]

Re: Giving up Money

According to Brian Windhorst, Lebron and the Heat are trying to talk the Cavs into making a sign and trade max deal. I suspect before the meltdown they figured the Cav's hand would be forced and they'd do it. I don't think Lebron and Co ever figured they wouldn't get the max deal.

ooohh, sick burn