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Vidor wrote:"House of Cards" lost me when the Vice President decided to go run for governor. That is just the dumbest idea ever.
Yes, absolutely. That was the first strike for me. Strikes #2 and 3 are below.
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The other one I found unbelievable was that they had video footage of Zoe's death and ruled it out so easily. It you just rewind the tape like 30 seconds, you will see she was standing there talking to someone. No, you couldn't see who, but you could tell it was someone. Either the police were totally incompetent or they owed Underwood a favor, which just opens a whole other can of worms I don't have patience for. The other one I found to be a pretty far reach was the hacker from "the deep internet" happened to find this reporter and also owe the right people favors. It just seemed very unlikely and random that this hacker would be on the right forums to make that connection. They would have also had to alert him to be out there looking for people talking about Zoe. It seemed contrived. If they had somehow written the hacker into the story before that, it would have been more believable.

But I think the main reason it lost me is that I need to have a rooting interest. If the main characters had redeeming qualities but had to work within this totally corrupt system, it would be way more interesting to me. It would be like The Wire then - people doing bad stuff because they are working within a crappy system, and they know its bad but they do it anyway. Then other people trying to figure out how to make the system do something good for once. But all we ever got in House of Cards was people who seem to have few redeeming qualities getting screwed by other people who have even fewer redeeming qualities. The reporters are the only ones left to root for, and they either got killed, got scared and left, or got crushed by weird plot turns.

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Cole Burns wrote:Archer has been absolutely horrible this season. I know I'll get burned for saying that - but it's the truth. I hate that Pam is hooked on coke for no real reason except to make her skinny. But even with that aside, the writing has hit a door and just can't get through it. I really thought the new direction would liven things up, but it hasn't. It's tanked.
Ok...I just watched the final two episodes from this season. It's still a lost season, but those last two episodes are worth a watch. And the final scene - WOW! Just, wow... You knew it would be coming, but then thought, "Nah, they wouldn't" and then they do.
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The web series, High Maintenance, which is tied together by a bicycle pot dealer in New York but is really a way to tell short character pieces is excellent, imo.

Here's a review:

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/movi ... iewed.html

You can stream it here:

http://www.helpingyoumaintain.com/episodes

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I like "Turn", but I'm a big Revolutionary War buff. Also like Heather Lind. Wow.

As for "Mad Men", this isn't the first time Bert Cooper has been portrayed as an old-school racist. I'm just wondering whether Don will come back to SC&P to lead the battle against Jim Cutler or whether he'll start a new agency with Peggy and Pete.

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Cole Burns wrote:
Cole Burns wrote:Archer has been absolutely horrible this season. I know I'll get burned for saying that - but it's the truth. I hate that Pam is hooked on coke for no real reason except to make her skinny. But even with that aside, the writing has hit a door and just can't get through it. I really thought the new direction would liven things up, but it hasn't. It's tanked.
Ok...I just watched the final two episodes from this season. It's still a lost season, but those last two episodes are worth a watch. And the final scene - WOW! Just, wow... You knew it would be coming, but then thought, "Nah, they wouldn't" and then they do.
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Archer is Lana's baby daddy!
Ha, watched it right after my post and thought it was a great episode. That was a great scene.
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Veep is hilarious.

That is all I have to add to the TV thread right now, but wanted to put it out there b/c I don't see any Veep love.

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Yeah. Veep is good but I've been stuck on season 1 for a while.

Someone needs to work on spreading the good shows out, because it seems like they're all on right now.

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I've been thinking about tryinh Veep ever since Parks and Rec never really recovered from the written-by-a-Twilight-tween wedding episode (or three). The show is still okay, but it just hasn't hit old-age all that well. So many episodes end with a 'Leslie you're so wonderful' moment now you have to wonder what Amy Poehler thinks her own [expletive] smells like (no, I'm still very fond of her). Ron's moments would be a lot funnier if they hadn't revealed he's actually a teddy bear several times over (but what are they supposed to do, I guess). And everything else is just familiar and not nearly as potent anymore. Billy on the Street was super funny for a minute on PnR, but now is super not funny. Modern Family has aged much better, IMO--though I could entertain very similar arguments against that show.

Honestly, they really, really shouldn't have married Leslie. Think of all the funny dudes they could bring on for her to date to inject life. But that's what these guys do. As I said before Andy Samberg and that latina girl are going to be married by episode 3 of season 2. But if Friends fans can wait 10 years, surely this (and The Office's) audience could have eeked it out a bit more.

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JackofDiamonds wrote:
Cole Burns wrote:
Cole Burns wrote:Archer has been absolutely horrible this season. I know I'll get burned for saying that - but it's the truth. I hate that Pam is hooked on coke for no real reason except to make her skinny. But even with that aside, the writing has hit a door and just can't get through it. I really thought the new direction would liven things up, but it hasn't. It's tanked.
Ok...I just watched the final two episodes from this season. It's still a lost season, but those last two episodes are worth a watch. And the final scene - WOW! Just, wow... You knew it would be coming, but then thought, "Nah, they wouldn't" and then they do.
[SHOW]
Archer is Lana's baby daddy!
Ha, watched it right after my post and thought it was a great episode. That was a great scene.
[SHOW]
baby....baby... Baby.... BABY
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MrSaigon wrote:I've been thinking about tryinh Veep ever since Parks and Rec never really recovered from the written-by-a-Twilight-tween wedding episode (or three). The show is still okay, but it just hasn't hit old-age all that well. So many episodes end with a 'Leslie you're so wonderful' moment now you have to wonder what Amy Poehler thinks her own [expletive] smells like (no, I'm still very fond of her). Ron's moments would be a lot funnier if they hadn't revealed he's actually a teddy bear several times over (but what are they supposed to do, I guess). And everything else is just familiar and not nearly as potent anymore. Billy on the Street was super funny for a minute on PnR, but now is super not funny. Modern Family has aged much better, IMO--though I could entertain very similar arguments against that show.

Honestly, they really, really shouldn't have married Leslie. Think of all the funny dudes they could bring on for her to date to inject life. But that's what these guys do. As I said before Andy Samberg and that latina girl are going to be married by episode 3 of season 2. But if Friends fans can wait 10 years, surely this (and The Office's) audience could have eeked it out a bit more.
This pretty much sums up everything I've been thinking about Parks for a while, and I'm glad you said it. The show is too precious for it's own good anymore.

I'd say you're ripe for a plunge into Veep, which is as nasty and mean-spirited and delightfully vulgar a thing as you'll find and which is not at all interested in sentiment and which ends most weeks on a darkly funny down note.

The cast on this show, I mean, up top you have probably the best sitcom actress of the last 25 years. You have Tony Hale. You have Matt Walsh. You have the cute little girl from My Girl dishing out the vulgarity with the best of them. I don't know the connection to the casting director, but there's this odd, streaming cast of legendary Chicago improvisors like Dan Bakkedahl as the vulgar congressman and Pete Grosz as the vulgar lobbyist and Sam Richardson as the inept Iowa-based Gary-lite flunky and David Pasquesi as Selina's vulgar opportunistic ex-husband. This show hit the ground running, full-speed and fully-formed on episode one, and it has just gotten better since.

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