College Football ToughCalls Week 4

[Maclowery]

Miami, Fl at Pitt (Thursday)
Virginia Tech at Boston College
Stanford at Notre Dame
Alabama at Arkansas
Nevada at BYU
Georgia at Mississippi State
South Carolina at Auburn
West Virginia at LSU
California at Arizona[/quote]

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

They're good, make no mistake about it, but it's silly to put them with the best teams of all time.

2001 Miami 17 first round picks

Which I haven't done....yet. Suffice it to say though, if they go 14-0 they will have more than a handful of1st round players as ingram and jones and mcelroy aren't going to get them there by themselves.

It's not likely they go undefeated though, so this entire argument is moot.

And, stop being so damn defensive of your gosh damned hurricanes

[lukethedrifter]

They're good, make no mistake about it, but it's silly to put them with the best teams of all time.

2001 Miami 17 first round picks

Which I haven't done....yet. Suffice it to say though, if they go 14-0 they will have more than a handful of1st round players as ingram and jones and mcelroy aren't going to get them there by themselves.

It's not likely they go undefeated though, so this entire argument is moot.

And, stop being so damn defensive of your gosh damned hurricanes

Yeah, your SMSU Bears are getting jealous.

[Maclowery]

Man, Pitt is getting manhandled on offense, defense, and special teams. I thought it'd be closer.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Man, Pitt is getting manhandled on offense, defense, and special teams. I thought it'd be closer.

No one ever went broke betting against Dave Wannstedt.

[Maclowery]

I feel bad watching him grimace in slow motion. I feel like they've cut to that shot 5 times in the second half.

[cardsfansince82]

If you are going to count dudes that barely even sniffed the field as an indicator of the overall talent of a team then it will be awhile before we can say how good Bama is. And FWIW I would bet a lot of money against Alabama finishing with 2+ losses.

[JS04]

Miami, Fl - I refuse to trust a Dave Wannstedt team...cost me too much money over the years (ahem, game @ Utah)

Boston College
Stanford
Arkansas (upset special, Ryan Mallet delivers)
BYU
Mississippi State
Auburn
LSU
Arizona

Wannstedt never disappoints..

That was embarassing, and I'm not sure how long Pitt can keep him around

[phins]

If you are going to count dudes that barely even sniffed the field as an indicator of the overall talent of a team then it will be awhile before we can say how good Bama is. And FWIW I would bet a lot of money against Alabama finishing with 2+ losses.

To another post first, where the hell was I in any way being defensive of my Miami Hurricanes? I'd say that's someone looking for something there.

Those players listed all played large roles for Miami that there. At least 13 of the 1st rounders were in the two deep, and I'm not sure that any of them redshifted that year.

The 95 Nebraska team didn't have as much pro talent, however, they won three national titles in four years, beat ranked opponents by the largest margin in history, and didn't allow a sack all season. Granted they threw it a lot, but not one sack all year after playing five ranker opponents is silly. Then beat Florida like 62-24 for the championship. Lots of great teams through the years, and I'd still take last years Bama over this one.

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

If you are going to count dudes that barely even sniffed the field as an indicator of the overall talent of a team then it will be awhile before we can say how good Bama is. And FWIW I would bet a lot of money against Alabama finishing with 2+ losses.

To another post first, where the hell was I in any way being defensive of my Miami Hurricanes? I'd say that's someone looking for something there.

Those players listed all played large roles for Miami that there. At least 13 of the 1st rounders were in the two deep, and I'm not sure that any of them redshifted that year.

The 95 Nebraska team didn't have as much pro talent, however, they won three national titles in four years, beat ranked opponents by the largest margin in history, and didn't allow a sack all season. Granted they threw it a lot, but not one sack all year after playing five ranker opponents is silly. Then beat Florida like 62-24 for the championship. Lots of great teams through the years, and I'd still take last years Bama over this one.

Oh my goodness, I was kidding around! Hence, the winky mcwinkerson at the end of the post.

And, like I said in a post earlier, I haven't claimed Alabama > 01 Miami. I just said if they run the table this year, which is very very far from guaranteed, you have to throw this team's name in that hat. Which isn't the same as saying 2010 Alabama > 2001 Miami, either.

Addressing your 'who goes pro' approach, I am not doubting Miami's greatness. Just saying that if a team in a deep SEC goes 28-0 over a two year span, they're undoubtedly going to produce their fair share of NFL talent as well, we'll see.

I was kidding around about your defense of miami b/c I stated something based on a contingency and you got all fired up about how great Miami was. Didn't mean to piss you off. Sorry if I did.