Introspection

[Cronos]

I'm not sure exactly how serious I'm being with this.

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That was pretty darn funny. Clearly Bob was a Behaviorist.

[Cronos]

[expletive] statistics. you're not a statistic.

Haha, this is the wrong board upon which to say that, isn't it?

People are statistics. Statistics are measurements of what is average, what is normal. That's all it is. Clearly, in the relevant department, I'm not normal. And at that point, few become normal. And ay, there's the rub.

And yes I've been told the tale of the self-fulfilling prophecy a lot. It doesn't work, in my eyes. Why? The only time it's ever brought up is when it involves negative feelings or thoughts leading to more negativity, and yet when it involves positive feelings or thoughts it's never mentioned.

Maybe loathing others is not the correct way, but focusing on others instead of looking at your own faults.

I've tried being more of an @sshole to people. Literally. I've tried to be more confrontational, thinking that if others are going to be that way and that they're happy, then fine. I'll do the same. It hasn't really made any difference. To those who know me, it comes off as being comical and/or sarcastic.

Focusing on others is a better point.

[Jocephus]

[expletive] statistics. you're not a statistic.

Haha, this is the wrong board upon which to say that, isn't it?

People are statistics. Statistics are measurements of what is average, what is normal. That's all it is. Clearly, in the relevant department, I'm not normal. And at that point, few become normal. And ay, there's the rub.

And yes I've been told the tale of the self-fulfilling prophecy a lot. It doesn't work, in my eyes. Why? The only time it's ever brought up is when it involves negative feelings or thoughts leading to more negativity, and yet when it involves positive feelings or thoughts it's never mentioned.

you're a pysch guy right? haven't you heard that you ain't supposed to diagnose yourself? and yes, your description of statistics is correct...but again, thats at least 3,000 respondents...we're talking about YOU. [expletive] statistics. they are not relevant in this case. (adn i know the importance of statistics, my thesis is riddled with them).

re: SFP;, you dont think skip schumaker wanted to be a pro ball player his whole life? what is he? he's a pro ball player. yes, most SFP tend to revolve around "negative" things, that doesn't mean positive SFP don't happen. and regardless, you are totally fitting the mold of a negative SFP, i dont know why you are so quick to dismiss it.

i know you haven't asked for my opinion, and im in no way a professional to offer "advice", but i am a bit shocked at how "negative" you are being. you need to relax. you need to forget any preconceived notion about yourself that you have developed.

[Jocephus]

and thats anothe rthing. people lie. thats why you shouldn't trust those statistics. baseball, thats one thing, thats on the field performanc ewhere anyone can check to see if you truly hit a double, a homerun or a scored a run. when people are discussing how they "feel", you really can't make that into a stat. as much as you might like to. how do you "know" someone is happy/content with their life?

thats why i say, [expletive] statistics. it seems like you use that as an "excuse" to justify your feeligns of unhappiness. (or whatever it is your feeling).

again, i only "know you" from grb and facebook. i dont profess to have some infinite knowledge, but i just feel like you are WAY to hard on yourself and you dont even give your chance to succeed....(in this area of life, that is)

[Cronos]

you're a pysch guy right? haven't you heard that you ain't supposed to diagnose yourself?

Show me a psychologist who never tried to diagnose themself, even for a single moment in their mind, and I'll show you a leprechaun. And he'll dance a happy little jig while playing a tiny violin.

and yes, your description of statistics is correct...but again, thats at least 3,000 respondents...we're talking about YOU. [expletive] statistics. they are not relevant in this case. (adn i know the importance of statistics, my thesis is riddled with them).

How are statistics not relevant in this case? I'm not trying to be difficult, I just don't see why you would say that I don't matter in a statistical viewpoint.

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My situation does not relate to Skip Schumaker, carrying that analogy forward. He's achieved his goal. Whether he achieves it better than the throng of players out there doesn't really matter.

[thrill]

I read the wiki about that avpd thing and it fits what my best friend has to a t.

It's impossible to tell people with that disorder why they have good things going for them and that people don't really think they are lame. They will never believe you and thats just the nature of the disorder. It can be really frustrating because to a person who doesn't have as much problems with self esteem you can't identify with what they are going through. Their whole life becomes a series of self-fulfilling negative prophecies. They think they can't talk to girls, so obviously if they try they have zero confidence and we know how that story ends.

Cronos, I hope you can find something to help you realize the worth you have. I often think about my friend and I think the only difference between he and I is that when I feel down, I compensate. I put the person who slighted me down or I buy some new crap that makes me feel good again. Sometimes I drink and hit on women to make myself feel awesome again. My friend doesn't compensate. On one hand, that's admirable because he isn't a ego maniac but on the other hand, it leaves him defenseless against everyday letdowns. Basically I think I can lie to myself and he can't.

If that makes any sense.

[Jocephus]

you're a pysch guy right? haven't you heard that you ain't supposed to diagnose yourself?

Show me a psychologist who never tried to diagnose themself, even for a single moment in their mind, and I'll show you a leprechaun. And he'll dance a happy little jig while playing a tiny violin.

that doesn't matter. you shouldn't do it to yourself!!! you will drive yourself insane.

and yes, your description of statistics is correct...but again, thats at least 3,000 respondents...we're talking about YOU. [expletive] statistics. they are not relevant in this case. (adn i know the importance of statistics, my thesis is riddled with them).

How are statistics not relevant in this case? I'm not trying to be difficult, I just don't see why you would say that I don't matter in a statistical viewpoint.

people lie about how happy they are. statistics are not the "end all truth" they may give you tendencies, but its not the [expletive] bible ( and im an atheist)

[Jocephus]

you're a pysch guy right? haven't you heard that you ain't supposed to diagnose yourself?

Show me a psychologist who never tried to diagnose themself, even for a single moment in their mind, and I'll show you a leprechaun. And he'll dance a happy little jig while playing a tiny violin.

and yes, your description of statistics is correct...but again, thats at least 3,000 respondents...we're talking about YOU. [expletive] statistics. they are not relevant in this case. (adn i know the importance of statistics, my thesis is riddled with them).

How are statistics not relevant in this case? I'm not trying to be difficult, I just don't see why you would say that I don't matter in a statistical viewpoint.

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My situation does not relate to Skip Schumaker, carrying that analogy forward. He's achieved his goal. Whether he achieves it better than the throng of players out there doesn't really matter.

see, you just dismiss if you dont like it.

does that not make sense though? skip wasn't giving arod like talent. he wasn't a shoo-in to make it to the major leagues...but he worked his ass off and made it. YOU need to work on your self confidence and then you'll attain happiness (or whatever it is you are looking for)

[Cronos]

statistics are not the "end all truth". they may give you tendencies, but its not the [expletive] bible ( and im an atheist)

When it comes down to the inherent issue that I'm talking about, I argue that it really is the end-all truth, to borrow your words. I could go deeper but I think it would bore readers and/or would reveal a bit more of my psyche than I wish to bear, but suffice it to say the fact that I am the age I am and yet am as naive I am in certain areas leaves me completely out of the normal statistical boundary. The cheesy line would be "But that makes you unique!". Well, that's not an area I(nor anyone) would want to be unique within. Not in this society.

[Jocephus]

and its like...if we are talking about girls/sex...YOU only see the successes....you DONT see the failures of all the "suave" guys. but you have to realize that every guy bombs now and again when it comes to women.

you have to have a sense of humour about it. just relax!