Do you consider St. Louis a Midwestern or Southern city?

[JL21]

Seriously though, there is a difference between country/hick/hoosier (that you find universally the farther away you get from large cities) and southern. I think some of you people are confusing the two.

That's kind of my point- about how you can find "hoosiers" anywhere.

[jim]

I've never even considered StL to be a southern city.

It's got Midwest written all over it.

Plus, we don't talk funny in StL.

Highway farty?

I've lived in St. Louis for almost 25 years, and I've never heard anyone in or from St. Louis that says "Highway Farty". Dead serious. I don't know where that came from.

All I ever saw it on was an Imo's pizza commercial.

How old are you, 25? If so, I'm guessing you haven't heard it because that's how you pronounce it. It was the first thing I picked up on when I moved there. It's very obvious if you aren't used to it.

[StL Dan]

- presence of hoosiers
- frequency of seeing confederate flag decals on backs of pickup trucks (south county only)
- remaining signs of segregation.

I have seen all three of these in Wisconsin and Minnesota, and the first one.... well, there are hoosiers in just about every single state. Think about the propensity of militias and stuff in the West.

The usage of "hoosier" is very unique to St. Louis. I've never heard of anyone call anyone else a hoosier outside of St. Louis.

Very true.... but a hoosier by any other name is still a hoosier (that's Shakespeare, right?). Just because they call them something else other places, they're still the same thing.

I had a mullet and drove a 69 Camaro. Seriously.

Btw...I say Highway 40....but not Highway FARTY.

[Jocephus]

- presence of hoosiers
- frequency of seeing confederate flag decals on backs of pickup trucks (south county only)
- remaining signs of segregation.

I have seen all three of these in Wisconsin and Minnesota, and the first one.... well, there are hoosiers in just about every single state. Think about the propensity of militias and stuff in the West.

The usage of "hoosier" is very unique to St. Louis. I've never heard of anyone call anyone else a hoosier outside of St. Louis.

Very true.... but a hoosier by any other name is still a hoosier (that's Shakespeare, right?). Just because they call them something else other places, they're still the same thing.

I had a mullet and drove a 69 Camaro. Seriously.

oh, dan.....

[StL Dan]

- presence of hoosiers
- frequency of seeing confederate flag decals on backs of pickup trucks (south county only)
- remaining signs of segregation.

I have seen all three of these in Wisconsin and Minnesota, and the first one.... well, there are hoosiers in just about every single state. Think about the propensity of militias and stuff in the West.

The usage of "hoosier" is very unique to St. Louis. I've never heard of anyone call anyone else a hoosier outside of St. Louis.

Very true.... but a hoosier by any other name is still a hoosier (that's Shakespeare, right?). Just because they call them something else other places, they're still the same thing.

I had a mullet and drove a 69 Camaro. Seriously.

oh, dan.....

Gimme a break, man. It was 1987.

[Cronos]

I've never even considered StL to be a southern city.

It's got Midwest written all over it.

Plus, we don't talk funny in StL.

Highway farty?

I've lived in St. Louis for almost 25 years, and I've never heard anyone in or from St. Louis that says "Highway Farty". Dead serious. I don't know where that came from.

All I ever saw it on was an Imo's pizza commercial.

How old are you, 25? If so, I'm guessing you haven't heard it because that's how you pronounce it. It was the first thing I picked up on when I moved there. It's very obvious if you aren't used to it.

Nah. I usually pay pretty close attention to accent and diction(I sing, and in private lessons I've had to watch those things carefully over the years) and I think I'd know if I made a "far" sound as opposed to a "for" sound there. If nothing else, my voice teacher(not from St. Louis) would have made fun of me for it.

Maybe it is more apparent in older folks as someone in this thread suggested; I'll pay attention to my grandmother(the eldest person I know) the next time I see her and see if she does it.

[jim]

I had a mullet and drove a 69 Camaro. Seriously.

Btw...I say Highway 40....but not Highway FARTY.

KSHE bumper sticker or two?

[heyzeus]

Sterotypical St. Louisan when I lived there in the 80's:

Long hair, black Trans Am with a little bit of rust and two KSHE bumper stickers, flying down highway farty passing all of those hoosiers in the way to get the Imo's buffet before it closed.

No way. I don't buy it.

Imo's had a buffet?

[StL Dan]

I had a mullet and drove a 69 Camaro. Seriously.

Btw...I say Highway 40....but not Highway FARTY.

KSHE bumper sticker or two?

Believe it or not, I didn't really like KSHE.

They didn't play enough hair bands.

Btw...here in KC, I work on "40 Highway".

[jim]

Nah. I usually pay pretty close attention to accent and diction(I sing, and in private lessons I've had to watch those things carefully over the years) and I think I'd know if I made a "far" sound as opposed to a "for" sound there. If nothing else, my voice teacher(not from St. Louis) would have made fun of me for it.

Maybe it is more apparent in older folks as someone in this thread suggested; I'll pay attention to my grandmother(the eldest person I know) the next time I see her and see if she does it.

You live in the city or the county? As you move away from the city you don't hear it as much, same as in Chicago with the "a" sound in car (cat). People in Geneva, IL and Chesterfield, MO have almost the same dialect, but Chicago and St.Louis are quite a bit different.