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Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 18 08, 8:26 am
by JL21
The Onion wrote:Obama Deletes Another Unread MoveOn.org E-Mail
SEPTEMBER 17, 2008 | ISSUE 44•38

CHICAGO—After receiving yet another unwanted e-mail from liberal political action group MoveOn.org Monday, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama deleted the message from his inbox without even glancing at its contents.

"Ugh, not these people again," Obama was overheard to say as he placed the unread e-mail into the Gmail folder marked "Trash."

According to official records, the e-mail, entitled "50,000 Obama buttons?" was sent at 6:47 a.m. on Tuesday morning. Aides say that Obama checked his mail at 7 a.m. before leaving for a charity fundraiser, and appeared visibly dismayed upon realizing that his new message was from MoveOn.org.

"It seems like every time I turn on my computer, another goddamn MoveOn.org e-mail pops up," said Obama, noting that this is the third message from the progressive online organization he has deleted in the past week. "How many of these things am I going to get?"

"They already know I'm going to vote for Obama," Obama added. "The only people who sign up for this thing are Democrats anyway. They're just preaching to the choir."

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Sen. Obama fails to summon even a passing interest in yet another video contest.

Obama reportedly joined the MoveOn.org mailing list while attending the 2004 Democratic National Convention in Boston. Although he was initially intrigued by the idea of receiving newsletters and updates from a group of like-minded, politically active Americans, Obama said the nonstop deluge of e-mails has made him regret his decision.

"I usually get excited when I see that I have one unread message," Obama said. "I think that maybe it's something interesting or important, but then I see it's another MoveOn e-mail and my heart just sinks. It's like getting nothing."

Obama has deleted approximately 25 e-mails from MoveOn.org in the past two months. In addition, Obama's junk folder contains nearly 60 messages from various MoveOn employees and members whose e-mail addresses Obama has previously flagged as spam. Perhaps most telling of his recent frustrations, Obama's mail records confirm that, in April 2008, he replied to a MoveOn.org e-mail entitled "10 Things You Need to Know About John McCain" with the message "Shut up."

Obama, who has traveled across the nation advocating unity among all races and social classes, said he was tired of the onslaught of MoveOn e-mails alleging the organization is making a difference with free campaign buttons, meet-ups, and "make your own Obama video" contests.

"I tried to skim over a few of them at first, but after a while, it's like, 'enough,'" said Obama, who noted that a pro-Obama house party should never be touted as "historic." "The other day, four people sent me the same freaking petition. The same one. How many times do I have to sign this?"

"I know this election is important and everything," Obama added. "But these people seriously need to relax."

Although he acknowledged that it takes little time and effort to discard the unwanted messages, the senator said that MoveOn has nonetheless become a nuisance. In recent weeks, he has begun automatically deleting any e-mail in which he sees the name "Barack Obama" in the subject line, which has only created further problems.

"Shortly after the DNC, I accidentally erased a personal message from my grandmother congratulating me on my nomination," Obama said. "Way to go, MoveOn.org."

According to Obama, however, the most annoying aspect of the MoveOn e-mails is the "self-righteous manner" in which the political advocacy group's mostly white employees have appropriated his campaign message and used it as their own.

"It's irritating that these people think they're doing everybody this great service just by clicking 'send' a million times," Obama said. "I'm trying to make the world a better place, but with all the time I've been spending deleting e-mails, it's going to take me forever."

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 18 08, 10:03 am
by jimedmondsfan
Popeye_Card wrote:
wart57 wrote:I know of quite a few Pentecostals who don't wear the really long skirts, but manny do.
Well that's just Pentecostal Manny being Pentecostal Manny.
Oh this should have had a dust bunny alert!!

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 18 08, 10:11 am
by Popeye_Card
jimedmondsfan wrote:
Popeye_Card wrote:
wart57 wrote:I know of quite a few Pentecostals who don't wear the really long skirts, but manny do.
Well that's just Pentecostal Manny being Pentecostal Manny.
Oh this should have had a dust bunny alert!!
I was hoping it would at least generate a photoshop...

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 18 08, 10:35 am
by JL21
Popeye_Card wrote:I was hoping it would at least generate a photoshop...
He's a faith healer!

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Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 18 08, 11:12 am
by PujolJunkie
Obama +4 on Gallup
Obama +6 on R2000
Obama +4 on Quinnipac
Obama +4 on Diageo/Hotline
Tied on Rasmussen

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 18 08, 11:13 am
by Popeye_Card
Where's the skirt?

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 18 08, 11:56 am
by Radbird
Popeye_Card wrote:Where's the skirt?
She's at a rally with McCain up in Cedar Rapids.


/badaboom

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 18 08, 12:06 pm
by PujolJunkie
New Gallup Demographic polling. From Sept 8 to 14, before Obama started gaining on McCain and passing him. This info is old and doesn't represent stats from the past 4 days, which has been the biggest bounce period for Obama. So you can probably add a point or even two points or so to Obama in every group.

Age:
18 to 29, O 55, M 40
30 to 49, O 44, M 49
50 to 64, O 45, M 48
65++, O 40, M 49

Gender:
Males, O 41, M 52 (Probably has seen the biggest change over the past 4 days)
Females, 0 48, M 43

Party ID:
Liberal Dems, O 93, M 5
Moderate Dems, O 81, M 12
Conservative Dems, O 66, M 24
Pure Independents, O 27, M 32
Lib/Mod Republicans, O 10, M 85
Conservative Repubs, O 3, M 95

Race:
Non-Hispanic White, O 37, M 55
Non-Hispanic Black, O 93, M 4
Hispanic, O 55, M 35

Region:
East, O 49, M 41
Midwest, O 46, M 46
South, O 39, M 54
West, O 47, M 47

Marital Status:
Married, O 38, M 56
Not Married, O 54, M 37

Once again. Grain of salt. This is in the middle of the last half of McCain's bounce.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 18 08, 12:13 pm
by PujolJunkie
U of Wisconsin polls. Not sure exactly how credible they are..

-- Illinois: Obama 52.9%, McCain 37.0%
-- Indiana: McCain 46.7%, Obama 43.2%
-- Iowa: McCain 44.8%, Obama 44.8%
-- Michigan: Obama 47.8%, McCain 43.8%
-- Minnesota: Obama 47.3%, McCain 44.5%
-- Ohio: Obama 45.6%, McCain 45.1%
-- Pennsylvania: Obama 45.0%, McCain 44.6%
-- Wisconsin: Obama 45.2%, McCain 44.3%

Iowa seems to be an outlier. It's always been strongly blue and it being closer than Ohio is really strange to me. So I'm gonna say that one is a bit off. Other than that, everything looks pretty credible. Ohio, Michigan, Indiana and Illinois all look like the best polling. I can't see it being that close in Pennsylvania or Wisconsin, however.

EDIT: Sample size was only 600. Depending on the Party ID sample, that could explain some issues.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 18 08, 12:22 pm
by cpebbles
Ohio is a very socially conservative state that sometimes swings Democratic because of the labor issue. I think it would actually be a pretty major coup for Obama to hold onto it.