2007 Draft

Talk about the Cardinals minor league baseball
Post Reply
User avatar
mikechamp
Hall Of Famer
Posts: 11761
Joined: April 17 06, 5:05 pm
Location: Southwestern Illinois

Post by mikechamp »

Just curious: All this hype about the Matt Harvey guy, and he's still on the board. What's up with that?

User avatar
G. Keenan
Sucking on the Rally Nipple
Posts: 23718
Joined: April 16 06, 6:03 pm
Location: Chicago

Post by G. Keenan »

maddash wrote:If the Cardinals truly are limited in what they can spend, is it wiser to try bringing pitchers up through the system (even at the cost of a high signing bonus), or is it more financially wise to test the market a few years from now when pitchers like Marquis and Suppan have already set a precedent for enormously inflated salaries? Because the Cardinals, through this draft, are setting themselves up for the enormously inflated salaries side of things, and not the cheaper route of bring pitchers up through the system.
That's what I've tried to say multiple times today. We can't afford to sign impact FA pitchers. We're going to have to develop them and currently, we don't have any in our system.

The Tigers took Porcello, who obviously know something about drafting young power pitching. Not to mention that Dombrowski drafted Beckett when he worked for the Marlins.

Oh well. Maybe whateverhisnameis will turn into the next Brandon Webb.

User avatar
Bo Hart
Perennial All-Star
Posts: 8770
Joined: April 14 06, 9:50 pm

Post by Bo Hart »

maddash wrote:If the Cardinals truly are limited in what they can spend, is it wiser to try bringing pitchers up through the system (even at the cost of a high signing bonus), or is it more financially wise to test the market a few years from now when pitchers like Marquis and Suppan have already set a precedent for enormously inflated salaries? Because the Cardinals, through this draft, are setting themselves up for the enormously inflated salaries side of things, and not the cheaper route of bring pitchers up through the system.
That's an interesting question, and I'm interested in hearing some responses.

But with the draft, you're committing $10 million to someone who might not even make the majors! Now granted, he likely will... but Porcello is only a high schooler so he's far from a sure thing.

I just don't like how people act like drafting a player automatically ensures he's going to pan out or something. There is a reason they didn't draft Porcello. I guess they didn't think he was worth the money. I just can't believe he is such a sure-fire lock when so many other teams passed on an opportunity to draft him as well. Some of them couldn't afford it, but there were certainly a handful of capable teams that opted to take someone else.

User avatar
thrill
bronoun enthusiast
Posts: 30539
Joined: April 14 06, 10:45 pm
Location: barely online

Post by thrill »

mikechamp wrote:Just curious: All this hype about the Matt Harvey guy, and he's still on the board. What's up with that?
Money. Guys like him and Porcello want in the 7-10 million neighborhood. Considering the high chance that they may never even pitch in the big leagues, it is a huge risk.

But I think worth it if you want to, as maddash mentioned, avoid over priced free agents.

User avatar
Bo Hart
Perennial All-Star
Posts: 8770
Joined: April 14 06, 9:50 pm

Post by Bo Hart »

thrill wrote:Considering the high chance that they may never even pitch in the big leagues, it is a huge risk.
Any idea what the numbers on this are? First round pitchers making the majors? I said Porcello (arguably a top 1-2 pitcher in the draft) would "likely" make the majors at some point. Obviously that is a lot different from saying he'll be successful, though.

Do you -- or does anyone -- have any idea of what the percentages are?

jim
Red Lobster for the seafood lover in you
Posts: 50393
Joined: May 1 06, 2:41 pm

Post by jim »

I can't get any results, can someone tell me where a kid named Casey Crosby has gone (if he has gone). LHP.

User avatar
clevername
Bringer of FRBG
Posts: 10380
Joined: April 16 06, 7:13 pm
Location: Alabama

Post by clevername »

we keep focusing on Porcello, but he wasn't the only good guy available that we passed over for either pick.

We didn't have to take him or Harvey or any of the "high priced" guys. We only needed something better at each spot.

User avatar
mikechamp
Hall Of Famer
Posts: 11761
Joined: April 17 06, 5:05 pm
Location: Southwestern Illinois

Post by mikechamp »

jim wrote:I can't get any results, can someone tell me where a kid named Casey Crosby has gone (if he has gone). LHP.
Hasn't gone yet.

But I'm going... home now. Take care all, and see you tomorrow!

jim
Red Lobster for the seafood lover in you
Posts: 50393
Joined: May 1 06, 2:41 pm

Post by jim »

Where are they at in the draft?

User avatar
New Pagodi
Perennial All-Star
Posts: 4219
Joined: April 18 06, 11:30 pm
Location: St. Louis
Contact:

Post by New Pagodi »

jim wrote:I can't get any results, can someone tell me where a kid named Casey Crosby has gone (if he has gone). LHP.
Try going to the draft caster and doing a sort by name. Crosby hasn't been selected yet.

Post Reply