NBA Offseason Thread.

[jim]

The guard at work told me this morning he was listening on the radio and they said the difference between Chicago and Miami given the same salaries is $2.8M because of taxes.

God is Chicago and the whole god damn state a [expletive] hole. It really is, why would anyone want to come here?

[Maclowery]

Boozer, a low-post scorer, plus still more cap space to sign multiple quality guys, is better than Heinrich's overpaid contract and a 17th pick. The 17th pick for the Bulls was Kevin Seraphin, a longshot to break 10mpg. He has everyone's favorite draft phrase ("an NBA body") and little else.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft/re ... n-seraphin

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Long, athletic player
7-foot-3 wingspan
NBA body
Excellent leaper
Good shot-blocker
Runs the floor well, mobile
Finishes strong at the basket

Negatives	
Low basketball IQ
No offensive game outside 5 feet from the basket
Struggles with defensive rotations
Lacks general experience playing basketball

The guy has about a 10% chance to pan out to a 15mpg backup player at best.

Again. Socnorb. Heinrich was disposable. His contract was much higher than his production. The 17th pick can produce a good player, yes. In this specific case, it was irrelevant, as the Bulls wanted instead to get someone of direct use. They got Boozer for a good price. There's still cap room to sign more guys. You're the only person in the universe except Heinrich's parents that keeping him was the right thing to do.

[MrSaigon]

I was really hoping Seraphin (the 17th pick) would be around when the Blazers picked 22nd. He's a draft and stash euro guy, but he could be something special. It's more of a baseball draft pick, but it works out well sometimes and with a pick at that range it's a reasonable risk.

Young French guys Batum (25th pick) and Rodrique Beaubois (25th pick), were supposed to be stashed but impressed and made their teams their first year and have really bright futures.

Chicago put themselves in the best position possible with the deal, they don't have much need for Hinrich. But it wouldn't be that surprising if Seraphin becomes a player they wished they had but gave away, especially if Boozer is burdened with injuries.

[jim]

You had to make a run at these guys, and Chicago did it. Can't fault them for that. Plus I'm sure we can replace Heinrich with the cap space.

[MrSaigon]

It is a little surprising to me that the best deal they could find for Hinrich was with a draft pick. Seems like they could have dealt him straight up for a waivable player (but most of those situations have a buy out that counts against cap). Anyway, I imagine they tried to get their best deal. In either case--if he's a cheap young guy, or they just have his rights while he's developing in Europe, having Seraphin wouldn't be bad at all.

[MrSaigon]

"It's gotten ridiculous," Orlando coach Stan Van Gundy said. "It's almost like a parody of itself, this whole situation now. Come on, an hour long? It takes 15 seconds to say I've decided to stay in Cleveland but we've got another 59 minutes and 45 seconds to, what? Promote LeBron James? "As if we don't do that enough. Look, the guy's a great player and wherever he goes, my bet would be Cleveland, that place will be excited. But an hour-long special?"

[Socnorb11]

It is a little surprising to me that the best deal they could find for Hinrich was with a draft pick. Seems like they could have dealt him straight up for a waivable player (but most of those situations have a buy out that counts against cap). Anyway, I imagine they tried to get their best deal. In either case--if he's a cheap young guy, or they just have his rights while he's developing in Europe, having Seraphin wouldn't be bad at all.

I agree with you. I never said that Hinrich couldn't be replaced. I just can't believe that they couldn't get SOMETHING in return, and had to basically throw in a first round draft pick just to get rid of him.

I see both sides of it, I just don't think it worked out well.

[Faceman]

It is a little surprising to me that the best deal they could find for Hinrich was with a draft pick. Seems like they could have dealt him straight up for a waivable player (but most of those situations have a buy out that counts against cap). Anyway, I imagine they tried to get their best deal. In either case--if he's a cheap young guy, or they just have his rights while he's developing in Europe, having Seraphin wouldn't be bad at all.

They took all his salary right? $17M over the next two years.

Giving away a pick to free that up is a no-brainer. Half the veteran deals in the NBA are terrible from a production vs. cost standpoint.

[Socnorb11]

"It's gotten ridiculous," Orlando coach Stan Van Gundy said. "It's almost like a parody of itself, this whole situation now. Come on, an hour long? It takes 15 seconds to say I've decided to stay in Cleveland but we've got another 59 minutes and 45 seconds to, what? Promote LeBron James? "As if we don't do that enough. Look, the guy's a great player and wherever he goes, my bet would be Cleveland, that place will be excited. But an hour-long special?"

[MrSaigon]

It is a little surprising to me that the best deal they could find for Hinrich was with a draft pick. Seems like they could have dealt him straight up for a waivable player (but most of those situations have a buy out that counts against cap). Anyway, I imagine they tried to get their best deal. In either case--if he's a cheap young guy, or they just have his rights while he's developing in Europe, having Seraphin wouldn't be bad at all.

They took all his salary right? $17M over the next two years.

Giving away a pick to free that up is a no-brainer. Half the veteran deals in the NBA are terrible from a production vs. cost standpoint.

Hinrich is a solid, if overpaid player. It's not like their dumping Eddy Curry here. He has on court value. It is surprising to me that they couldn't do better. Like, as I said, trade him for someone waivable, or trade him for rights to a Euro, and keep the draft pick.

I imagine they did their part. I'm surprised is all.