Tornado Warnings/Sirens

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

Jesus [expletive]. No, I'm not pissed that there weren't tornadoes. No, I'm not wanting to do away with tornado warnings all together. Further, IMa, it's unlikely a news channel chose to run a story based on what two teabaggers said in home depot. And it's even more unlikely that those people were even teabaggers.

We just got another good lick of storms tonight. There were some pretty good tornadoes that rolled through. The entire area was put on notice, as you would expect, and unless you had a radar open right in front of you and/or a first hand view what was happening, you'd never have known if you were one of the 5% of people if that in harms way. I had to email friends that were in their 'tornado shelters' what was going on as all they got from the radio was warnings.

Personally, I was directly in one of the 'hooks' that meteorologists get a boner over tonight. And, for about 30 seconds the winds blew. A tree was knocked down about half a mile away. Same as what happened a few weeks ago when I wasn't in a hook but there were strong winds.

Even those 'hooks' that are what about half a mile wide don't produce tornadoes a majority of the time. But, yeah, [expletive] it, let's issue a tornado warning for entire counties based on these small hooks. Brilliant! The fact you all can't see that that is a bad idea is mind boggling.

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[InvincibleCakeEater]

Jesus [expletive].But, yeah, [expletive] it, let's issue a tornado warning for entire counties based on these small hooks. Brilliant!

Yes, it is. It's the closest meteorologists can come to predicting tornadoes.

The fact you all can't see that that is a bad idea is mind boggling.

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I honestly cannot fathom how it's a bad idea other than being a nuisance to you.

1. Issue a tornado warning, it never fully forms and everyone is ok. - GOOD
2. Issue a tornado warning, it forms and touches down and people who took heed to the warning are out of harms way. - GOOD
3. Don't issue a tornado warning because AWvsCBsteeeerike3 sees "hooks" all the time and nothing ever happens, tornado forms and touches down killing 20 people who had no idea it was even coming. - BAD

The fact that you can't see that is mind boggling.

[obucard]

The only people who wouldn't take a warning seriously are the people who weren't here in 1997.

[Spider John]

I bet the actual of tornadoes sighted in comparison to tornado warnings is less than 10%.

Would you like to see less warnings? I'm trying to figure out why the above is a bad thing given the devastation that can happen in a very short amount of time with a tornado. Look at that video of the tornado hitting the airport with all the people looking out the window. It looked like it formed right there. They had little / no time to take corrective action.

Last year i watched a funnel come out of the cloud. Doesn't take long and what you can see isn't the whole thing as the cyclonic action is happening in the air underneath the funnel as it comes down as well.

Also remember that some funnels will never get to the ground either. The radar can see the cyclonic motion but can't tell if its on the ground.

All in all, I guess I don't mind the tornado warnings even if it is only 10% 'actual'. it saves lives.

You sure read a lot into what I said. I'm just saying I understand his point. I'm not saying that the warnings shouldn't be put out there, or that they should be ignored just because they rarely amount to an actual tornado.

I have suffered tornado damage to my house in the past, had a different tornado about three miles away that ripped through the middle of our town, and have been out of power at my home since about 11 pm last night due to high winds, so I'm familiar with severe weather situations, and the necessity of the warnings.

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

Jesus [expletive].But, yeah, [expletive] it, let's issue a tornado warning for entire counties based on these small hooks. Brilliant!

Yes, it is. It's the closest meteorologists can come to predicting tornadoes.

The fact you all can't see that that is a bad idea is mind boggling.

\rant

I honestly cannot fathom how it's a bad idea other than being a nuisance to you.

1. Issue a tornado warning, it never fully forms and everyone is ok. - GOOD
2. Issue a tornado warning, it forms and touches down and people who took heed to the warning are out of harms way. - GOOD
3. Don't issue a tornado warning because AWvsCBsteeeerike3 sees "hooks" all the time and nothing ever happens, tornado forms and touches down killing 20 people who had no idea it was even coming. - BAD

The fact that you can't see that is mind boggling.

4. People lose respect for the sirens/warnings and they lose effectiveness. I counted 8 people out on their front porches last night while the sirens went off for over half an hour last night. And, I bet no one was laying in their tub that entire time. Further, for a half a mile swath you're going to put people 30 miles away under a warning? That's retarded. Let's just keep the area under a warning all the time and keep the sirens blaring non-stop. That way we'll always be safe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf

[lukethedrifter]

Jesus [expletive].But, yeah, [expletive] it, let's issue a tornado warning for entire counties based on these small hooks. Brilliant!

Yes, it is. It's the closest meteorologists can come to predicting tornadoes.

The fact you all can't see that that is a bad idea is mind boggling.

\rant

I honestly cannot fathom how it's a bad idea other than being a nuisance to you.

1. Issue a tornado warning, it never fully forms and everyone is ok. - GOOD
2. Issue a tornado warning, it forms and touches down and people who took heed to the warning are out of harms way. - GOOD
3. Don't issue a tornado warning because AWvsCBsteeeerike3 sees "hooks" all the time and nothing ever happens, tornado forms and touches down killing 20 people who had no idea it was even coming. - BAD

The fact that you can't see that is mind boggling.

4. People lose respect for the sirens/warnings and they lose effectiveness. I counted 8 people out on their front porches last night while the sirens went off for over half an hour last night. And, I bet no one was laying in their tub that entire time. Further, for a half a mile swath you're going to put people 30 miles away under a warning? That's retarded. Let's just keep the area under a warning all the time and keep the sirens blaring non-stop. That way we'll always be safe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf

And these are the same [expletive] that get Katrina'd or washed away having a hurricane party.

[cards2468]

I think this is a ploy by our government to implement social darwinism.

[InvincibleCakeEater]

4. People lose respect for the sirens/warnings and they lose effectiveness. I counted 8 people out on their front porches last night while the sirens went off for over half an hour last night. And, I bet no one was laying in their tub that entire time. Further, for a half a mile swath you're going to put people 30 miles away under a warning? That's retarded. Let's just keep the area under a warning all the time and keep the sirens blaring non-stop. That way we'll always be safe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf

At that point, it's on the people. Tornado producing storms often spawn multiple tornadoes, and who knows how far and quick a system with rotational activity can travel before actually touching down. Then when it's on the ground nobody knows how long it will be down nor the actual path it will take. It's an imperfect science and the longer they wait and try to localize warnings the shorter the response time for people in its path.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Wh ... _Was_There

[Bo Hart]

4. People lose respect for the sirens/warnings and they lose effectiveness. I counted 8 people out on their front porches last night while the sirens went off for over half an hour last night. And, I bet no one was laying in their tub that entire time. Further, for a half a mile swath you're going to put people 30 miles away under a warning? That's retarded. Let's just keep the area under a warning all the time and keep the sirens blaring non-stop. That way we'll always be safe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf

That's not comparable at all though. The boy was crying "wolf!" to deliberate mislead people and get attention. The National Weather Service (or whoever handles this) is issuing tornado warnings because a tornado could potentially could touch down, but they can't discern between whether or not one will. That's just a shortcoming of weather forecasting, not an indictment on a trigger-happy siren operator.

[lukethedrifter]

7 people killed in Arkansas last night from storms and tornadoes.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... ansas.html