Rieges wrote:I don't see any scenario where Lebron goes to the Clippers. I don't think he will care about being in Jordan's shadow but I do think he would mind his team playing second fiddle to the Lakers which will always be the case regardless of who's on the Clippers. I also believe him when he says he's all about winning championships and the Clippers will never give him a better shot at winning titles than the Bulls, Heat, or Cavs.
I could pitch an argument there.
LA is big enough for the Clippers and Lakers. So far the Clippers haven't been big enough for LA.
I don't want him to go to the Clippers or the West at all.
At least all of you Bulls fans have a hope (which you're probably making too much of). It can kind of suck being a small market fan, and Joe Morgan agrees. All of the Blazers' superstars were drafted or traded for (and it's not a long list anyway). Just got to get that bitterness out there.
vinsanity wrote:In Cleveland there's nothing but the Cavs. In NY LeBron probably wouldn't be the biggest star in his own town. In Chicago he might be, but I still think basketball is second or third in that city behind the Bears and Cubs.
vinsanity wrote:In Cleveland there's nothing but the Cavs. In NY LeBron probably wouldn't be the biggest star in his own town. In Chicago he might be, but I still think basketball is second or third in that city behind the Bears and Cubs.
You are wrong.
Care to elaborate? You disagree that Jeter is a bigger NY star than LeBron would be? Or how bout Jay-Z or any other # of celebrities in NY.
LeBron could throw a press conference and spit on every person and they'd love him in Cleveland. If he didn't win the Knicks a title in 3 years they'd crucify him.
Most people I know from Chicago (and there are a few) are Cubs Fans, Bears Fans and Bulls/Blackhawks fans in that order.
Some may switch Bears and Cubs, or Bears then Sox. But I have rarely met anyone who is a bigger Bulls fan than Bears or Cubs/Sox.
vinsanity wrote:In Cleveland there's nothing but the Cavs. In NY LeBron probably wouldn't be the biggest star in his own town. In Chicago he might be, but I still think basketball is second or third in that city behind the Bears and Cubs.
You are wrong.
Care to elaborate? You disagree that Jeter is a bigger NY star than LeBron would be? Or how bout Jay-Z or any other # of celebrities in NY.
LeBron could throw a press conference and spit on every person and they'd love him in Cleveland. If he didn't win the Knicks a title in 3 years they'd crucify him.
Most people I know from Chicago (and there are a few) are Cubs Fans, Bears Fans and Bulls/Blackhawks fans in that order.
Some may switch Bears and Cubs, or Bears then Sox. But I have rarely met anyone who is a bigger Bulls fan than Bears or Cubs/Sox.
Check that order 15 years ago when Jordan was still in his prime.
vinsanity wrote:In Cleveland there's nothing but the Cavs. In NY LeBron probably wouldn't be the biggest star in his own town. In Chicago he might be, but I still think basketball is second or third in that city behind the Bears and Cubs.
You are wrong.
Care to elaborate? You disagree that Jeter is a bigger NY star than LeBron would be?
Yes, yes, a billion times yes.
It doesn't matter that people are slightly bigger Bear fans than they are Cub or Bull fans. It doesn't mean LeBron wouldn't run things. He's already the biggest name in sports. I'm going to repeat that. He's already the biggest name in sports. Only someone like Tiger who doesn't play on a team(or play a sport, but that's another argument) is close.
vinsanity wrote:Care to elaborate? You disagree that Jeter is a bigger NY star than LeBron would be?
Yes, yes, a billion times yes.
It doesn't matter that people are slightly bigger Bear fans than they are Cub or Bull fans. It doesn't mean LeBron wouldn't run things. He's already the biggest name in sports. I'm going to repeat that. He's already the biggest name in sports. Only someone like Tiger who doesn't play on a team(or play a sport, but that's another argument) is close.
LeBron is bigger to every day people. Non-sports fans. But just cause someone knows his name doesn't mean they are gonna buy his jersey.
No need to get snooty.
Anyways, what are the chances the Cavs can pull a PG better Mo Williams from place? Maybe sign Bosh or Amare?
JackofDiamonds wrote:Check that order 15 years ago when Jordan was still in his prime.
Is LeBron going to sign with the Bulls 15 years ago?
Is this intentional or unintentional obtuseness?
Hyperbole for $1000 Alex.
I understand these things ebb and flow, and the 'winning' team usually gets the lion's share of attention. But how many titles did Jordan have to win before he got to that point? Every year without a title the boo birds and nay-sayers would rise in number and volume.
It's, you guys think he should sign in Chicago. I don't.
Now, who would like to discuss something different since we clearly won't come to terms on this?
You've been consistently antagonistic against a bunch of Bulls fans hoping to get the best player in the sport. I'm glad you've decided we should move on and stop talking about it.
With the post-season suddenly interesting again, I wonder if the last two weeks of it will affect trades and signs this summer. Cleveland signed Shaq, it seemed, as an answer to handle Dwight Howard. Teams in the west wanted to go bigger to stop LA's 3 7-footers. If the Celtics win the East (I assume the Magic will get smacked once they go back to Boston now), do other teams in the East counter by trying to get faster - to handle Rondo's speed and out-hustle the aging Celtics? What do teams in the West react to if the Suns upset the Lakers?
I'm absolutely hoping the Suns pull it off. Obviously I don't like the Lakers. At the same time, the Suns are really fun to watch, I feel like Nash deserves a damned Finals experience for the first time, and in general I want the NBA to encourage fast, athletic play. I want teams in the off-season to respond as such, and not as much as a reaction to handle specific players (ie, we have to stop Rondo next May, or give a long 3 a huge contract because he can guard Kobe).
