Scott Rolen for Troy Glaus (Update: Finalized!)

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Re: Scott Rolen for Troy Glaus almost a done deal

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Magneto2.0 wrote:Rasmus, Pujols, Glaus, Duncan and Ankiel looks much more intimidating, then it would if Rolen was there instead of Glaus.
Agreed 100%

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JGant82 wrote:
Magneto2.0 wrote:Rasmus, Pujols, Glaus, Duncan and Ankiel looks much more intimidating, then it would if Rolen was there instead of Glaus.
Agreed 100%
I didn't know baseball games were won by intimidation.

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thrill wrote:
JGant82 wrote:
Magneto2.0 wrote:Rasmus, Pujols, Glaus, Duncan and Ankiel looks much more intimidating, then it would if Rolen was there instead of Glaus.
Agreed 100%
I didn't know baseball games were won by intimidation.
No, but they are won by scoring more runs then the other guy

Which Glaus will help us do more then Rolen...at least imo

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cpebbles wrote:
Jmodene wrote:Defensively, of course, Rolen is the superior (since he's superior to any other third baseman out there), but Glaus is no slouch; he has an RF of 2.55 and a FPCT of .949 to Rolen's 2.84 RF and .966 FPCT.
Glaus is in fact a slouch, and his teams have been looking for ways to move him to 1B for years now. -5 UZR last year to Rolen's +24. -8 vs. +19 per 150 games between 2000 and 2007.
FWIW PMR and RZR are friendlier to Glaus.

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Re: Scott Rolen for Troy Glaus almost a done deal

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I like Glaus hitting behind Pujols much better than Rolen hitting there. The rest of the lineup is not half bad with strength added in the middle. I would still like a trade bringing Jason Bay, Jack Wilson and Matt Morris to the Cards, however.

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Re: Scott Rolen for Troy Glaus almost a done deal

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JGant82 wrote:
thrill wrote:
JGant82 wrote:
Magneto2.0 wrote:Rasmus, Pujols, Glaus, Duncan and Ankiel looks much more intimidating, then it would if Rolen was there instead of Glaus.
Agreed 100%
I didn't know baseball games were won by intimidation.
No, but they are won by scoring more runs then the other guy

Which Glaus will help us do more then Rolen...at least imo
Another way to outscore an opponent is to prevent them from scoring runs. The bats are similar and the gloves are about as dissimilar as you can get among mlb third basemen.

The only thing I like about the deal is that I believe Scott's injury to be far more debilitating and last year's performance will become the norm for him going forward. Then again, I have neither seen the results of his surgery nor am I any kind of a doctor so I have about as second hand and least qualified of an opinion as you can get.

I'm not saying it's as bad a deal as cpebbles, I'm just saying it isn't a clear win either.

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Re: Scott Rolen for Troy Glaus almost a done deal

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thrill wrote:
JGant82 wrote:
thrill wrote:
JGant82 wrote:
Magneto2.0 wrote:Rasmus, Pujols, Glaus, Duncan and Ankiel looks much more intimidating, then it would if Rolen was there instead of Glaus.
Agreed 100%
I didn't know baseball games were won by intimidation.
No, but they are won by scoring more runs then the other guy

Which Glaus will help us do more then Rolen...at least imo
Another way to outscore an opponent is to prevent them from scoring runs. The bats are similar and the gloves are about as dissimilar as you can get among mlb third basemen.

The only thing I like about the deal is that I believe Scott's injury to be far more debilitating and last year's performance will become the norm for him going forward. Then again, I have neither seen the results of his surgery nor am I any kind of a doctor so I have about as second hand and least qualified of an opinion as you can get.

I'm not saying it's as bad a deal as cpebbles, I'm just saying it isn't a clear win either.
And I'll go ahead and disagree with you that the bats are similar..

Glaus' foot affects a hitter a lot less then what Rolen's shoulder does, and Rolen (imo) isn't ever going to be the same hitter he was..

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I put in the category of "not great, not ideal, but relatively harmless given the circumstances." If it is a punt, that doesn't bother me too much either. Though I think we're better offensively with or without Glaus than some others here seem to think.

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deal won't go through unless Glaus is guaranteed through 09 per Bernie.

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well...he is guaranteed. It's a player option, right? So he wants more money for his option year coming off an injury?

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