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Re: 4/3 GDT: Cardinals(Flaherty) @ Brewers(Anderson) 6:40 PM

Posted: April 4 18, 1:02 pm
by dmarx114
I am confused as to why this forum thinks asking a pitcher to get 5 outs in a game is practically an impossible task.

Re: 4/3 GDT: Cardinals(Flaherty) @ Brewers(Anderson) 6:40 PM

Posted: April 4 18, 1:04 pm
by wart57
dmarx114 wrote:I am confused as to why this forum thinks asking a pitcher to get 5 outs in a game is practically an impossible task.
Because it was Matheny who asked him to...

Re: 4/3 GDT: Cardinals(Flaherty) @ Brewers(Anderson) 6:40 PM

Posted: April 4 18, 1:09 pm
by jagtrader
pioneer98 wrote:
Fat_Bulldog wrote:Why carry 19 relievers if you're going to stick with bad matchups anyway?
Exactly. Why carry that many relievers if you're going to try for 5 out saves?

Giving up the HR to Yelich was forgivable but not the one to Braun.
This is what happens when you have 8 relievers and don't trust half of them.

Re: 4/3 GDT: Cardinals(Flaherty) @ Brewers(Anderson) 6:40 PM

Posted: April 4 18, 1:12 pm
by jagtrader
Pushing Leone was a perfectly reasonable strategy. But you have to acknowledge that getting the final five outs when you start with the tying runs already on base is a difficult task. Lead was on the line for every pitch. That's a high stress outing for a guy who has never been a closer.

Re: 4/3 GDT: Cardinals(Flaherty) @ Brewers(Anderson) 6:40 PM

Posted: April 4 18, 2:54 pm
by dmarx114
jagtrader wrote:Pushing Leone was a perfectly reasonable strategy. But you have to acknowledge that getting the final five outs when you start with the tying runs already on base is a difficult task. Lead was on the line for every pitch. That's a high stress outing for a guy who has never been a closer.
Eh, I can't agree. "Difficult" is over stating it. This is a relief pitcher's job.

More to the point, Leone got a pop out and a strike out to start the 9th. Then he made Yelich look silly on a 1-1 pitch. At this exact point, I challenge anyone to say that Leone was looking tired, or stressed, or any other BS excuse.

Leone got beat by 2 all stars. It happens.

Re: 4/3 GDT: Cardinals(Flaherty) @ Brewers(Anderson) 6:40 PM

Posted: April 4 18, 3:17 pm
by Hoot45
dmarx114 wrote:More to the point, Leone got a pop out and a strike out to start the 9th. Then he made Yelich look silly on a 1-1 pitch. At this exact point, I challenge anyone to say that Leone was looking tired, or stressed, or any other BS excuse.

Leone got beat by 2 all stars. It happens.
Leone threw that slider to Yelich four straight times. Not completely sure who to blame because Yadi clearly called it. But going back to that same spot with that same pitch so many times is trouble no matter how you're feeling. He "went back to the well" as the broadcast said one too many times and that's the one Yelich crushed. Leone totally hung that one. Then he tried it again, hung it, and Braun crushed it too.

EDIT: Not to mention, Braun now 4-4 with 3 HR against Leone.