Re: 2017-18 NBA Thread
Posted: May 24 18, 6:33 pm
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Nice one chiefTim wrote:No they aren't.Socnorb11 wrote:Why complicate this? Houston is arguably on-par with Golden State right now.
Then why is it that collections of very good players have bested LeBron in the Finals more often than LeBron and a band of role players have bested collections of very good players? If the answer is "LeBron plus whatever is the best you can do" then why doesn't LeBron have 12 rings? His Miami team lost a Finals to Dallas. Not the Dubs with KD, but the Mavericks. With Wade and Bosh. And LeBron in his physical prime. LeBron plus whatever isn't the right answer, especially at 33 and declining on defense.Transmogrified Tiger wrote:The answer is 1 and it is not particularly close. The answer to the question of 'which 2 teams do you combine to beat the Warriors' is asking the question 'which team do you add LeBron to in order to beat the Warriors', although LeBron's supporting cast does get a bit of a bum rap at times. The idea that guys like Smart, Marcus Morris, and Rudy Gay are so much better than the Korvers, Thompsons, and Smiths to make up for LeBron v. other team's star is silly.33anda3rd wrote:How so? I mean, if you're talking about combining two teams, would you rather have:Transmogrified Tiger wrote:It baffles me that people can still think this.33anda3rd wrote:Everything I would gain from adding LeBron on offense, and especially in leadership and intelligence, I'd lose on defense and everywhere else from not having any other player to add from that team.
1. LeBron and maybe Love but almost certainly no other Cavs.
2. All those awesome Celtics two-way guys + Stevens.
3. Kawhi + a few other Spurs.
If it's "add one player", sure, I'll take LeBron. But I wouldn't take LeBron alone over Smart + Rozier + Kyrie + Hayward + Horford + Tatum + Marcus Morris. Or Kawhi + LMA + Danny Green + Gay + a couple other Spurs rotation guys. LeBron can't do it all alone. He tries, bless him, and he's the greatest, but he's only won three rings in eight trips to the Finals, and has fallen to teams like the Spurs and Dubs and Mavs.
46-11-9MAGA wrote:LeBron puts up Harden numbers in the playoffs, when it actually counts. The real MVP.
I think he’s clearly GOAT if you take level of competition into consideration and disregard the dumb “ringzz erneh!” argument. 15th season doing this.InvincibleCakeEater wrote:46-11-9MAGA wrote:LeBron puts up Harden numbers in the playoffs, when it actually counts. The real MVP.
GOAT
YepMAGA wrote:I think he’s clearly GOAT if you take level of competition into consideration and disregard the dumb “ringzz erneh!” argument. 15th season doing this.InvincibleCakeEater wrote:46-11-9MAGA wrote:LeBron puts up Harden numbers in the playoffs, when it actually counts. The real MVP.
GOAT